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9th Body Found in New York

INVESTIGATORS found a ninth set of human remains today along a New York beach thought to have been where a serial killer buried victims.

“They are human remains. It’s not a complete body, they are partial human remains,” a source said.

Investigators also said they found a human skull, but it was unclear if it belonged to the ninth victim or was part of another set of remains, according to FOX News Channel.

State Police Captain James Dewar said the remains were discovered about 11.30am (local time) on the north side of Ocean Parkway about 2.4km from Jones Beach, just outside New York City.

Searchers “did locate some bones, and those bones will be transported to the Nassau County Medical Examiner’s office,” Captain Dewar confirmed, without elaborating.

Cops also found remains that were deemed to be animal bones earlier Monday and discovered a third set later in the day that have yet to be identified.

Investigators believe that the Long Island slays were linked to the serial killings of four prostitutes in Atlantic City, New Jersey, in 2006 because of similarities in the cases. “It’s the same guy,” a source said.

Another source said that a suspect had been identified – a contention Suffolk County cops have publicly denied.

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Some are speculating that the killer is either a cop or an ex cop. I do not think so. Serial Killers read books about other serial killers and learn. They also are known to be big fans of cop shows. I think the killer is just someone who has studied.

With the new information coming out it does look like it is the same killer.

Police have yet to link their deaths with the four victims in New Jersey –  Kim Raffo, Molly Jean Dilts, Barbara Breidor and Tracy Ann Roberts. But there are several coincidences.

In each case, the killer dumped four prostitutes near water and in close proximity. The bodies were in various stages of decomposition, suggesting he kept some for a  time after they died.

All eight were sex workers, and the four in New York used Craigslist. Each had been strangled.

He had removed the shoes from both sets of bodies, though the women in New Jersey were clothed. Those in Long Island had been stripped naked and were found without jewellery or belongings, each wrapped in burlap.

‘It’s the same guy,’one law-enforcement source told the Post.

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The article also goes into more information about the calls the killer made to Melissa’s younger sister.

The twisted Craigslist Ripper stalked the teenage sister of one of his victims, taunting her in six telephone calls.

He even revealed to 16-year-old Amanda Barthelemy that her sister Melissa was a prostitute – a secret she had kept from her family.

The sadistic serial killer, who police fear may have stalked and strangled to death at least eight vice girls over the past five years, would only talk to the teen.

Four bodies were dug up in Long island near Gilgo Beach last December, including Barthelemy, an aspiring hairdresser, who disappeared from her Bronx apartment in July, 2009.

The 24-year-old had not told her mother she was advertising her services on Craigslist and had been having sex with clients for more than a year.

According to the New York Post, the killer said to Amanda: ‘Is this Melissa’s little sister?’. ‘Yes,’ replied the girl.

‘Do you know what your sister is doing?  She’s a whore.’ Barthelemy had lied to her mother, Lynn, that she was an exotic dancer. Half a dozen more calls and texts followed in the next six weeks.

The killer always phoned in the evenings, spoke for less than three minutes and in a low voice, calmly mocking the youngster. The family feared he had seen Amanda when she visited her sister’s home and stayed over.

 

Edit, Some are reporting that the 10th set of bones have been identified as human which bring this up to 10 bodies, not 9.

N.Y./ Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Update

There are a lot of new links almost no new information yet.

The Village Voice has an inspiring quote from Shannan Gilbert’s mom:

The latest bodies were found Monday — three, to be exact — following one last Tuesday and four in late 2010. Gilbert has not been found, but her mother remains hopeful. “”If it wasn’t for my daughter, these bodies never would have been found,” she said. “Everyone has their destiny, maybe this was hers. I’m still hoping she comes home.”

That quote can also be found in a very in-depth article in the New York Times.

The WNYC News Blog spoke with Dr. Louis Schlesinger about the case trying to get some insight into the killer.

Police continued to scour a barrier island near Oak Beach, Long Island, just 45 miles east of New York City this week following the grisly discovery of eight bodies — four of whom were prostitutes. Details of the slayings are sparse, but experts painted a vivid picture of the mind likely behind the slayings based on the past behavior of cold-blooded killers.

Dr. Louis Schlesinger, a professor of forensic psychology at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, said this case had the hallmarks of sexually motivated crime.

“When someone is killing this way, the power and control is sexually stimulating,” Schlesinger said.

Serial killers are often romanticized in Hollywood as suave, intelligent types, but that is often not the case, Schlesinger said.

“Most are blue collar guys who are unemployed,” he said. “When they’re apprehended they’re disappointingly below average in every aspect.”

Most serial killers tend to be “normal”-seeming guys, according to Harold Schechter, a professor of Literature at Queens College who has written extensively about serial killers, both non-fiction and fiction.

“Perpetrators are often guys leading pretty conventional normal lives, with wives and children and normal jobs,” Schechter said.

Murders of prostitutes date back to Victorian times when perps were called “harlot killers,” he added.

Bruce Barket, former Nassau County assistant district attorney and criminal defense attorney, said there is another common thread among serial killers.

“One thing you can say about serial killers: they don’t stop because they convert,” he said. “They don’t find Jesus and stop. They stop because they’re caught or they die.”

Very true Mr. Barket.

Back to the NY Times article. The article goes through the history of the case to date.

It confirms that none of the 8 bodies found so far is Ms. Gilbert.

Investigators determined on Tuesday that none of the eight victims was Ms. Gilbert, the 24-year-old prostitute from Jersey City whose disappearance sparked the initial search near Ocean Parkway and Gilgo Beach.

The article mentions that police are seeming to spread out the search area.

On Tuesday, investigators focused their attention not only on the brush and grassy dunes where the bodies were found, but also on Oak Beach, a residential area a couple miles away. In the morning, a busload of investigators entered the gated community, known as the Oak Island Beach Association. Investigators have returned numerous times to the gated community since last year: It is where Ms. Gilbert was last seen.

Since they have moved part of the investigation into a residential area I’d guess that they are following leads or following up from other clues.

Another thing I find interesting is that the police are not just lumping all the bodies together. They have made statements that could lead one to wonder if they have a reason to think there 2 more than 2 killers.

The bodies of the four prostitutes discovered in December were deposited aboveground and spread over a quarter-mile. Each one had been placed roughly 500 feet from the next, and each one lay about 50 feet from the north side of Ocean Parkway. Investigators said that although they were placed there at different times, the four women were all in their 20s and that they had all advertised for clients on Craigslist.

Dominick Varrone, chief of detectives in the Suffolk County police, said that it was too early to ascertain much from the new remains; he noted that three of the four newly discovered bodies “were of a considerable distance from the original four.”

He said that the police still believe that the first four victims were “the work of a serial killer,” but that it was too soon to determine if any of the latest victims were connected to the earlier murders.

He also added that it seemed that the four latest victims had been left there at least as long as the earlier victims, who had been reported missing between July 2007 and September 2010.

There has been no more information about the bodies, no more official discussion about a connection to the Atlantic City NJ bodies. I do want to note that it does not seem that there are NJ officers assisting in NY. I guess there could be but I have not seen any in uniform nor have I seen any official reports about it.

The search for Shannan Gilbert continues as does the search for more clues. Hopefully there will not be anymore bodies.

Possible Victims of Serial Killer Rises to 8

Three additional sets of human remains have been discovered on the same New York beach where a serial killer is believed to have dumped the bodies of five other women.

Suffolk County police announced the discovery of the bodies today, raising the number of victims to at least eight.

Searchers used fire truck bucket ladders for an aerial view as others walked Oak Beach and Gilgo Beach in Long Island. They’ve waded through tall tick-infested vegetation since last week searching for more bodies and clues.

Cadaver dogs have had difficulty maneuvering through the thick brush, Dominich Varrone, Suffolk County’s chief of detectives, said at a news conference today.

“They don’t like getting smacked in the face with the bramble,” he said.

As many as 20 officers have already been treated for poison ivy during the searches.

Police first discovered four skeletal remains in December when searching for Shannan Gilbert. None of the remains have matched Gilbert. A fifth body was discovered last week, but that was determined to not to be the body of Gilbert either.

“We still believe that Shannan Gilbert is in this area,” Varrone said.

Police said the search would be continued Tuesday over a broader area.

If none of the three newly discovered remains are identified as Gilbert, it will leave the possibility that a ninth body remains to be found.

The victims who were previously identified were all prostitutes who had advertised on the internet site Craigslist.

The bodies are believed to the work of a serial killer. Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer told ABC News in December, “Four bodies found in the same location pretty much speaks for itself. It’s more than a coincidence. We could have a serial killer.”

Investigators had made little progess in the hunt for the serial killer, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Detectives have conducted interviews with associates, neighbors, friends and relatives of the identified victims, sources familiar with the investigation told ABC News.

ABC News’ Russell Goldman and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

The entire article and a video here.

It will be interesting to see how for back the bodies go.

There is not enough information to even speculate about any connection to any of the other unsolved killing.

The named victims so far

Quick NY Update

Laptop of pimp Akeem Cruz targeted in probe of slain bodies dumped on Long Island beach

BY John Marzulli and Alison Gendar
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Saturday, March 5th 2011, 4:00 AM

Akeem Cruz was the pimp of 22-year-old Megan Waterman, and also one of the last people to see her alive. Feds are searching his laptop for information.

A pimp of one of the slain craigslist hookers dumped on an isolated Long Island beach is in the feds’ cross hairs.

FBI agents sought a search warrant this week to troll through the laptop of Akeem Cruz, a Brooklyn pimp and cocaine dealer, according to records filed in  Brooklyn Federal Court.

Cruz, also known as “Vybe” and “Mello,” was one of the last people known to have seen 22-year-old  Megan Waterman alive when he pimped her out at a  
Holiday Inn Express
in Hauppauge, L.I., around  Memorial Day, according to her family and court records.

Waterman’s remains, along with those of three other missing prostitutes, were found on Gilgo Beach in December. Suffolk cops have said they believe the slayings were the work of a serial killer.

The court records don’t mention Waterman’s murder, but do say Cruz posted numerous craigslist ads selling the Maine woman’s sexual services.
Megan Waterman’s remains were found on Gilgo Beach in December.

Gilgo Beach Serial Killer

The authorities are not releasing many details about these murders.

Gilgo Beach Victims

Megan, Maureen, Melissa & Amber

I have been to a few forums in the hopes that someone local to the area has heard something but there really was nothing solid there.

What I do know is that the four young woman above were found dead at Gilgo Beach, Long Island, New York in mid-December 2009.

Maureen Brainard-Barnes -25 years old – last seen July 9, 2007

Melissa Barthelemy -24 years old -last seen July 12, 2009

Megan Waterman -22 years old – last seen June 8, 2010

Amber Lynn Costello -27 years old – last seen September 2, 2010

Authorities have not released how the women were killed, whether they were dressed or had any personal items (jewelry or the such) on them, toxicology findings or many other things that would help to either connect to or disconnect from the Atlantic City Serial Killings of ’06. The few details that have come out are:

  • The victims were killed at another location and then ‘dumped’ where they were later found.
  • They were wrapped in burlap sacs. At first it was reported that only 2 were in these sacs but in the latest articles all 4 were wrapped up.
  • They were “methodically dumped” (placed)  within 1/4 mile of each other. Although the news keeps using the word “dump site” and reporting “from a car” authorities said “methodically dumped.” This implies that they know a car was used since the area remote and there must not have been signs that the murders happened there. Also, remote but not really hidden away since a car could come by again showing the murders happened elsewhere. They were not just thrown from a car though. The killer placed them at this dump site. He also revisited this site, at least 3 times, and probably (at least) drove by even more.
  • All causes of death appear similar. They have not released the actual cause but have said all seemed to have been killed in similar ways. Due to the severe decomposition they might not be 100% sure of the cause but they can be pretty sure. Small bones broken may show strangulation, punctures and holes in bones my show stabbing, broken bones and skull damage can show blunt force trauma. The last victim killed / first identified might have been ‘intact’ enough to show a probable cause of death allowing investigators to know where to look and what to look for on the other victims.
  • All of the young women were prostitutes that used advertising on Craigslist. Actually this is the only known (released) connection between these women. They do not appear to have lived near each other or to have run in the same circle of associates. There have been reports, though, that police have connected them to a few (3) regular contacts / customers. This does not mean that any of those men killed them but it might help to give a clearer picture of the victims.
  • 3 of the 4 were under 5 ft tall and 100 lbs. The largest was not much bigger. The killer seemed to like ‘smaller’ women.

Megan Waterman was 5-feet-5 and 150 pounds.

Amber Lynn Costello was 4-feet-10 and weighed 100 pounds.

Lynn Barthelemy was 4-feet-11 and weighed 95 pounds.

Maureen Brainard-Barnes was 4-feet-11 and 105 pounds.

  • There were calls made from Melissa Barthelemy’s phone to her family. The male voice said cruel things about Melissa and called her a “whore”. – Authorities have not said that this was the killer but the calls were made days after she was last seen and stopped and there was no other activity from her phone . I have not heard of any other such calls to any of the other families or friends of these women.

There has not been much more besides speculation.

I am still bouncing back and forth as to whether I think that this is the same killer that struck Atlantic City, NJ in 2006. There are so many things that seem not to ‘fit’ but then I read something and I go back to the killer being the same. Just there being 4 bodies in similar terrains does not make a connection.

I hope that all of these families and loved ones can find peace.

I’ll write more on my thoughts and feelings about the cases later.

 

ABC News Report

Nightline Report

AP News Report

WIVB News Report

NY Daily News Report

48 Hours Coverage

WBEN News

In Memory of Megan Waterman

Maureen Brainard-Barnes

Amber Lynn Costello

If you have any information leading to the arrest of the person(s) responsible, please call the Scarborough Police Department at 207-883-6361, or their anonymous tip line at 207-730-4200, ext 3093, or the Suffolk County Police Department at 631-854-8400

New York bodies identified

Long Island authorities have identified the  female bodies dumped on Gilgo Beach last month.

Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of Norwich Conn.; Melissa Barthelemy, 24, of Erie County, N.Y.; Amber Lynn Costello, 27, of North Babylon,;  Megan Waterman, 22, of Scarborough, Maine, all were  in their 20s.

“Both District Attorney Thomas Spota and myself have determined that this has all the marks of a serial killer,” Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer told Metro. “Four bodies of women all engaged in the same occupation, bodies dumped in the same area, same age range and all missing women.”

Spota downplayed any correlation to the bodies of several missing Craiglist prostitutes that were discovered in Atlantic City in 2006. “There are similarities in the cases, but I don’t think there is a connection,” said Spota. “We’ve decided it is not the work of the same person.”

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I’d be interested to know what the differences are. I know that at least 3 of these women were in burlap bags but I had not heard of that in the N.J. case. I know that the women in N.J. were supposed to have been found looking in the same direction, I do not know of that happened here, or if it even was a fact in the N.J. cases.

If these cases are not connected then there are 2 serial killers in that area right now. Both are killing women that are working as escorts, adult entertainment dancers and or prostitutes and then dumping the bodies in ditches on beaches. There have been links to online services such Craigslist in the N.Y. case but I think that the women found in N.J. were known for working more on the streets. I am not 100% sure that there were no online connections in the N.J. case but I do not remember that and I have not seen any mention of it in the latest articles.

Her younger sister received  harassing calls after she vanished. Melissa Barthelemy, 24, was last seen alive July 12, 2009, and her sister in Buffalo received calls from her cellphone on July 16, 19 and 23, law enforcement sources told the New York Daily News.

Do you know what your sister is doing? She’s a whore,” a man’s voiced taunted.

New York police traced the last two calls to Midtown Manhattan.

The New York Times, citing a law enforcement official, reported that Barthelemy’s telephone records were traced to the Budget Inn and the Best Western motels near Massapequa, about 15 miles from Gilgo Beach, where the bodies were found in December. Investigators checked video records at both motels and talked to staff but learned nothing, the official said. Barthelemy’s family called police in New York soon after she disappeared from her Bronx apartment.

Police subpoenaed phone records, scoured the neighborhood and gathered DNA evidence, including a toothbrush that was later used to identify the body. Barthelemy’s family will hold a press conference on Thursday to talk about the case.

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“I believe it is a serial killer. I think it fits within the definition of what a serial killer would be. The causes of death appear to be substantially similar, but we’re not going to go into any further aspect of that at this time.” Spota said

Authorities have said they may have some leads and are making rapid progress, but are keeping other information quiet.

I understand the police keeping details quiet but I wish they would release more information.

Many of the articles seem to be cold towards the women. The women worked in the sex trades, fine, but it is disturbing to see a new article calling them “hookers”. It just seems wrong.

I can not help but think of the woman’s families reading in the hopes of finding something out and seeing it put that way. I just don’t think that is necessary.

I hope this killer is found soon.

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