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“So, here’s a question: How many reminders do we need before we have a conversation about capital punishment in Canada? How many Magnottas’, in whatever form they take, will rape, defile and kill before we acknowledge that there is such a thing as pure evil.”


I am not Canadian so I do not know how much I can contribute to this conversation on that blog so I’m talking with myself about it here.

I do believe in and support capital punishment. I do think that there are certain people (serial killers, serial rapists, child molesters, so on) that can not be ‘fixed’. They can not contribute to a society in any meaningful way. They are and always will be a threat to anyone around them. Much like rabid dogs (and I love dogs) they should be removed from society in a permanent way. The only way that protects all of society 100% is the death penalty.

The National Museum of Crime and Punishment

(Courtesy National Museum of Crime and Punishment) – An exhibit board explains the history of the Unabomber.

 By Jessica Goldstein
The newest exhibit at the National Museum of Crime and Punishment focuses on the Unabomber, whose explosives kept the United States on edge for almost two decades. It’s no surprise that the gallery is captivating; we’re a nation fascinated by, well, crime and punishment. Kids play cops and robbers in the back yard while teenagers quote “The Godfather” and their parents turn to HBO, enthralled by “The Sopranos.” “Law and Order”is on TV so often it’s a surprise there’s ever any other show on the air. Violence terrifies and murder repulses, yet those are the stories we watch, rapt, as they unfold on the news one gruesome detail at a time. The NMCP provides an array of artifacts, information and interactive exhibits to satisfy an insatiable desire to know more about crimes, those who commit them and those who work to solve them. Allow two to three hours to explore the five galleries: “A Notorious History of American Crime,” “Punishment: The Consequence of Crime,” “Crime Fighting,” “Crime Scene Investigation” and “ ‘America’s Most Wanted’ Studio.”Required reading: Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, was responsible for 16 attacks, three deaths and 23 injuries in 17 years. In early 1995, The Washington Post and the New York Times received a 67-page manifesto from the Unabomber promising to stop the bombings if the essay was published. After consulting with the FBI, the papers split the cost of publication, and the manifesto ran in The Post on Sept. 19, 1995. In February of the next year, the FBI got a tip from David Kaczynski, who recognized his brother’s voice and philosophy in the writing.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang: Bonnie and Clyde’s car — the one in which they were killed after running from the law for years — is on display, along with background information about two of America’s most famous criminals. The car is riddled with bullet holes from the attack that took the lovers down. Clyde died instantly, but Bonnie wasn’t as lucky; the shooters heard a “long, horrified scream” emanating from the car as they continued to fire.No, not that Cullen: In a room devoted to serial killers, visitors can learn about some of the most horrific murderers ever to strike in the United States. Charles Cullen, the former nurse who became the most prolific serial killer in history, was arrested in 2003. He showed signs of instability in early childhood, attempting suicide at 9 by drinking chemicals from a chemistry set in what was to be the first of 20 tries .Hurrah, hurrah, Pennsylvania: The word “penitentiary” comes from the Pennsylvania Quakers, who held the conviction that salvation could be achieved through penitence and self-reflection. In 1790, the Walnut Street Prison opened in Philadelphia; it was the first U.S. penitentiary and a pioneer in prison reform. Eastern State Penitentiary, now perhaps most famous as the site of one of the best Halloween haunted houses on the East Coast, opened in 1829 and used the “Pennsylvania system” of solitary confinement as a form of rehabilitation, designed to make prisoners feel remorse.Take a bite out of crime: McGruff, the trench-coat-wearing canine who has been baring his teeth at criminal activity since 1980, is all over the museum. Kids can keep an eye out for his questions posted throughout the exhibits about things like safety, taking candy from strangers and cyberbullying. Every now and then, McGruff himself hangs out in front of the museum. Look for him to be greeting visitors, posing for pictures and probably sweating his poor puppy face off.Target practice: An interactive exhibit allows you to sit in the driver’s seat, surrounded by screens for total immersion, as you act the part of a police officer chasing down a runaway suspect. Test your shooting skills with the firearms training system used by FBI agents. The video simulation is footage of a real house (with real people, in case you are squeamish about violence) as you pretend to conduct a raid.

CSI: Washington: The museum knows what you’re thinking about fighting crime: “Yeah, but is it like ‘CSI’?” In an effort to address the common inquiry head-on, the museum offers its most popular exhibit, “The CSI Experience.” You begin as the unsuspecting witness to suspicious behavior, then travel to the crime scene, collect evidence and head to the crime lab. On weekends, the museum runs CSI-themed workshops. Led by forensic scientists, the hands-on activities cover evidence collection, DNA, body decomposition and basic forensics.

Removing the evidence: Visit the Cop Shop to pick up a body-outline towel, a crime scene “do not cross” scarf that resembles yellow tape, and plenty of other crime-fighting and CSI-themed wares.

National Museum of Crime and Punishment

575 Seventh St. NW. 202-393-1099. . Hours: Monday-Thursday, 9 a.m.- 7 p.m.; Friday-Saturday, 9 a.m.-8 p.m.; Sunday, 10 a.m.-7 p.m. Tickets can be purchased online or at the gate. Adults online $18.95, gate $21.95; seniors, U.S. military and U.S. law enforcement online $15.95, gate $16.95; children ages 5-11 $14.95; children younger than 5, free.

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I would actually like to go. I think it could be interesting. A little morbid but interesting.

It would not just be for the serial killers, but to get a peek into not only criminal minds but into the investigative minds.

I’d love to go on the weekend, to take the C.S.I. workshop, though I am sure it is more ‘fun’ than true investigation. Maybe not though, maybe they are reacting to the whole “True Crime TV” issue (the general public / juries wanting & expecting  the Smoking Gun moment that is so common on TV) and showing the public the truth. I hope so.

Manson trying for a new trial

The lawyer says that he does not care about the “details” of the case.

I guess all the dead and injured are just details. I guess all the other people damaged or touched by these crimes are just details that this lawyer does not care about.

He says he cares about the “law”. I call B.S. He does not care about the law, he care about making a name for himself. He is the type of person that would fight for a pedophile to be able to keep his daycare center job on a technicality.

If Manson does get out I say he has to be under house arrest AT this lawyers house! That way not only will he be confined with Charlie, all the disassociated messed up people who are attracted to Manson can go to his home.

To claim that the trial was unfair because Charles Manson did not represent himself is insane. If he had been allowed to that would have been a reason…

I heard that the lawyer is also claiming that because there was no mistrial after the jury learned Nixon said Manson was guilty is another reason Manson deserves a new trial… Manson was the one that showed the jury the headlines! He should NOT benefit from his own bad deeds.

This a shame. The public’s tax money is going towards this and it is ridiculous!

One day I will go into my thoughts and ideas of Charles Manson and his so-called ‘family’.  Let’s just say for now that I believe their original sentences should have been applied!

An interesting article on these crimes.

Patricia Krenwinkel denied parole again

Kevin Roderick • January 20 2011 10:41 PM

krenwinkel-then.jpgkrenwinkel-2011.jpgKrenwinkel, now 64, is the longest-serving female prisoner in the California prison system — a distinction she gained when fellow Charles Manson follower Susan Atkins died in 2009. Known in the group as “Katie,” Krenwinkel took part in the August 1969Manson Family killings at the Benedict Canyon home of actress Sharon Tate and, the next night, at the Los Feliz home of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. Krenwinkel is reportedly the participant who left a fork in the abdomen of Mr. LaBianca and wrote “DEATH TO PIGS” in blood on the wall, and “HeaLter SkeLTter” on the refrigerator. The killers then hitchhiked home through the Valley to the Spahn Ranch in Chatsworth, while Manson — who had been at the LaBianca home — drove with some followers to Sylmar for milk shakes at Denny’s.

Krenwinkel will be eligible to try for parole again in seven years.


These people seem to think that their lives are more valuable than the lives that they denied, destroyed and brought pain to.

Stay in prison, you can not pay back society for the wide spread panic and pain that you caused.

You can not possibly do enough ‘good’ to somehow erase the lives you destroyed.

Rot in prison.

Currently Reading

I am one of those annoying people that marks her books up underlining, highlighting, writing motes in the margins and sometimes arguing with the author.
Right now I am reading Serial Killers: The Method and Madness of Monsters by Peter Vronsky. It is not a bad book, it is a little dated (BTK was still unidentified) and I have made many notes in the margins with updates.
I am going to write more specifics as I read along but right now I want to say that the book is very swayed by the author’s experience. When he writes about the serial killers in the 1960’s you can tell that the book was not written by an expert in sociology or in criminal behavior. He talks about some events as if the entire world saw it that way, but in reality it is his opinion. Usually rather than take away from the book it adds to it with a personal perspective that ‘expert’ authored books sometimes miss.
The biggest problem with his lack of expertise is that he concentrates more on the ‘popular’ Serial Killers and often quotes or references other true crime writers rather than official sources. When explaining the Organized Serial Killer he has 40 pages on Ted Bundy and mostly refers to things written by Ann Rule. I am not saying that is a bad thing in itself but the author then spends a mere 1 paragraph explaining the disorganized killer by using Miguel Rivera. The fact that the author choose to delve so deeply into Bundy, even after admitting that there are volumes upon volumes already on Bundy and then only glossing over on the opposite side is telling.
In all fairness Mr. Vronsky admits right off that he is not an expert. His interest in the subject was spurred by having fleeting meetings with 2 serial killers in his lifetime. He bumped into Richard Cottingham (nicknamed the New York Torso Killer) in a motel in NY and spoke briefly with Andrei Chikatilo (The Rostov Ripper) in Russia while making a documentary.

I am still pretty much in the beginning chapters. The book is a good read but it is definitely not a deep probe into the mind of serial killers as of yet.

I’ll write more later.

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