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Why? How?

Recently 2 different people that were thought to be victims of John Wayne Gacy were found alive. I kept wondering how they could just go missing and not contact their families. Other have asked the same thing.

Oregon Live spoke with the most recent person to be found and although it did not satisfy my curiosity I’m going to share it here. It does answer in a shallow way.

 More than 30 years ago, Theodore Szal abandoned his car at a Chicago airport and didn’t look back.

“I threw my keys away down the sewer grate so I couldn’t change my mind,” Szal said, 59.

When Theodore “Ted” Szal, then 24, disappeared in March 1977, his family did not report him missing to authorities because he had a history of disengaging from his family for periods of time, according to the Cook County Sheriff’s Office.

In November, Cook County authorities sought to identify serial killer John Wayne Gacy’s remaining victims. The circumstances of Szal’s disappearance matched the Gacy victim profile, authorities said.

Authorities interviewed the family, only to find that there were no matches between Szal’s parents’ DNA and the seven remaining unidentified Gacy victims. Authorities then performed background checks on Szal and located him in Beaverton.

On Monday, Beaverton police confirmed Szal’s identity. A Cook County detective told Szal that his family in Chicago was looking for him.

Man thought to be John Wayne Gacy victim found alive in BeavertonMan thought to be John Wayne Gacy victim found alive in BeavertonTed Szal left Chicago in March of 1977, abandoning everything, and his family suspected he was a victim of serial killer John Wayne Gacy. Instead his family found out this week he was alive, living in Beaverton.

Growing up, Szal said he felt like the “black sheep” of his family. While his three pretty sisters were cheerleaders in school, he was more of a class clown, he said.

After a family disagreement in which he felt betrayed, Szal decided to leave for good. 

“I just had to leave town,” Szal said. “I just had to go. ”

Szal rebuilt a new life, traveled through Colorado and lived in California for about a decade, working in construction.  In 1989, one of his jobs brought him to Springfield. He met and married a woman he met at a Safeway store that he was remodeling.

Szal and his wife, Debbie Szal, later moved to Beaverton and settled into an apartment near the downtown area. Szal worked maintenance jobs, while his wife worked as the property manager of their apartment complex.

john-wayne-gacyjpg-9389f1b8caa08d9e.jpgThe Associated Press John Wayne Gacy

During that time, he occasionally thought about calling or writing his family, but the pain of the betrayal was too great, he said. “Not just everyone writes their family off,” Szal said. “But I did.” He thought that with the advances of the Internet, his family could easily find and contact him.

His family didn’t forget about him. Szal’s father, Ted Szal Sr., carried a picture of his son in his shirt pocket since he left 34 years ago, he learned this week from a Cook County detective.

Szal relayed a message to his father from the detective: He was still fishing, just the way his dad taught him when he was growing up.

He has no other words for his family yet, he said. He’s still trying to digest everything that has happened. Yes, he left home, bitter and thick-headed, he said. But that’s changed. He didn’t know his family thought he may have been dead, and now he wants to make amends.

Give him a few days, he said, and he’ll call.

“I’ve forgiven them,” Szal said.

— Dominique Fong

I do not understand even still. I hope the disagreement was a doozy. I could never have done that to my family. If nothing else I would have called 1 a year or so just to try to piss them off. LOL

The Grim Sleeper Final 48 Police Need Help

The Los Angeles Police Department says they are focusing on the last batch of women depicted in photographs seized from the residence of Grim Sleeper serial killer, Lonnie Franklin Jr. Of the initial 180 females whose images were included in Franklin’s extensive collection, a “Final Forty-Eight” are the last to be identified, and possibly counted among his victims, says the LAPD.

“Unfortunately, as the photo grouping continues to be reduced, the likelihood that the women were victimized by Lonnie Franklin increases,” note authorities.

The LAPD put the images online in December 2010 in the hopes primarily that non-victims could be identified, and additionally so that other victims could be linked to one of L.A.’s most prolific contemporary alleged killers.

Now the police are working in the South Los Angeles community where Franklin resided his whole adult life to see if residents there can identify the “Final Forty-Eight” women. They have published a new flyer with those images. That flyer is available to the public for download via the LAPD’s website.

In late October, the LAPD linked six more murders to Franklin, bringing his tally to an accused 16 killings from 1985 until 2007.

Full Aricle

 

Grime sleeper updated

Ex-cop baffled by severed feet mystery in B.C.

CTVNews.ca Staff

Another foot has washed up in British Columbia — the 11th found along the coastline in the last four years. But while B.C. officials say they don’t consider any of the discoveries to be the result of foul play, a Toronto-based forensics expert is not so sure.

Forensics consultant and former Toronto Police detective Mark Mendelson says with this many feet being found in such a short period of time, he’s suspicious something is up.

“I don’t know whether you can look at this as just a coincidence,” he told CTV’s Canada AM Thursday.

Mendelson says one or two feet washing up on shore is weird enough; but this many feet, this often, is pretty fishy.

“You have to ask yourself: why is this only happening on the West Coast? Why aren’t these body parts floating up in Nova Scotia, or St. John’s, or off the coast of New Jersey? Something is very, very strange here,” he said.

In the past four years, 11 shoe-clad feet have washed up on beaches near Vancouver, along the southern Georgia Strait and off Washington State.

Four of the feet have been identified as belonging to three individuals who had been reported missing, but the identity of the rest remain a mystery.

The latest foot was found floating Tuesday in the water along False Creek in downtown Vancouver by a young boy. The shoe and foot were attached to lower leg bones. The B.C. Coroners Service says an autopsy confirmed the foot is human, but further tests are needed to determine whether it’s a man or woman’s foot.

In previous cases, police have said it appeared the feet separated naturally from bodies that were likely in the water for some time. Each time, they have said that foul play wasn’t suspected.

Huh? How does a foot separate “naturally”? I understand decomposition, animals feeding on bodies, shoe protecting certain parts….

See, the problem with the shoe protecting certain parts is that one the shoe and foot is loose the animal would begin feeding into the shoe.

Decomposition, why does 1 foot decompose and the other float to shore? Every time!?!?!?!

It is creepy.

But Mendelson says at this point, “You have to think dirty,” and consider foul play.

He says it’s true that a lot of people go missing in both Canada and the U.S. who are never reported missing. But if all these feet belong to people who were suicide victims or died in float plane crashes or drownings, why are only feet showing up?

“Where are all the rest of the body parts?” Mendelson wondered.

He says in his almost 30 years with the Toronto Police Service and in his 15 years in homicide, he’s done lots of investigations of bodies that turned up floating in waterways.

“Body parts do eventually make their way to the surface. So why are we only getting feet? Why are they only in running shoes? I’m not sure I buy the theory that it’s because the shoe floats,” he said.

Mendelson says forensic anthropologists will likely begin this investigation by looking at the break point of the leg, to see if there are striations or cut lines that show whether the leg was cut off with a saw or other implement.

They can also do tests on the bones to determine the approximate age of the victim. And they can talk to the shoe manufacturer about the brand of shoe that was found to determine when it was available for sale.

They’ll also run DNA tests on the foot, but that may not reveal much, Mendelson said. DNA results do not reveal identify on their own; they have to be matched with other DNA to be useful.

“If you can’t attach it to a human being, it’s just a piece of paper with letters and numbers,” he said.

Article and pictures here.

All I can say is creepy.

I am not saying it is a serial killer but I am saying that this is all strange.

How can they be so confident that the feet are not all connected? They have said some of the feet are form missing people but they do not give anymore info on who that might be and under what circumstances those people went missing.

Mind blowing.

RCMP Needs Help With A 16 year old mystery

Jane Doe

The RCMP want the public’s help in solving the 16-year-old mystery of a woman whose partial remains were found on serial killer Robert Pickton’s farm.

RCMP will be posting an FBI sketch of what the woman may have looked like on their website in the hope that a member of the public may recognize her.

Half of the woman’s skull, with the vertebra attached, was found in 1995 by a man filling a water bottle at a creek in Mission, B.C.

In August 2002, bones recovered at Pickton’s farm in Port Coquitlam were genetically linked to Jane Doe, but charges against Pickton for her murder were dropped.

RCMP Corporal Annie Linteau said she could not discuss the Pickton case and could not point to any new information about Jane Doe that was not part of the Pickton trial.

“This is not a story about Pickton. This is about Jane Doe,” she said Sunday in an interview.

The police have released information about Jane Doe in an effort to identify her, she said.

Source and a lot of information on Pickton

Article on the release of the photo

Another article on the Jane Doe

Grim Sleeper Photos

Some of the Grim Reaper's Victims

Some of the Grim Reaper's Photos

I hate to just copy articles but I think this article says it all and this case and all these women are important enough to forget opinions and focus on facts only.

LAPD investigates 4 missing persons cases as a result of Grim Sleeper photos

Authorities say two of the women appeared in the photographs found in a search of Lonnie Franklin Jr.’s property. The two other cases surfaced as a result of the publicity surrounding release of the photos.

By Andrew Blankstein, Los Angeles Times
January 7, 2011

Los Angeles police detectives said Thursday they are investigating at least four missing persons cases as a result of publicizing photos seized from the South Los Angeles property of Lonnie Franklin Jr., the Grim Sleeper serial slaying suspect.

The Los Angeles Police Department received hundreds of phone calls, e-mails and other tips last month after releasing about 180 photographs of unidentified women that were found in a trailer and garage belonging to Franklin.

Franklin, 57, is charged with 10 counts of murder and one count of attempted murder — crimes that occurred in South L.A. and spanned three decades, prosecutors said. Franklin has pleaded not guilty.

Thus far, at least 53 women depicted in the photos have been identified by LAPD Robbery-Homicide detectives.

At least 79 photos have been removed from the LAPD website after relatives, friends or the women in them contacted police to confirm their identities.

LAPD officials would not discuss details of the four missing persons cases other than to say they dated back to the early 1990s. Two of the missing women appeared in the photographs found in Franklin’s possessions, and the two other missing person cases surfaced as a result of the publicity surrounding release of the photos, police said.

“We know who they are. They can’t be located. They haven’t been seen in a substantial amount of time,” said Det. Dennis Kilcoyne, who is spearheading the investigation.

In addition to the missing women, police are examining at least 30 unsolved killings for any links to Franklin.

At the time of Franklin’s arrest in July, authorities found about 1,000 photographs and hundreds of hours of video of women.

Some of the images appeared to have been innocent snapshots, but many showed women in more risque poses. The materials spanned several decades, dating back to the 1980s, and included video and digital camera images, Polaroids, conventional prints and even undeveloped film.

The primary motivation for releasing the images was to find out whether the women were alive and well, Kilcoyne said. But detectives also have received more than 200 tips that ultimately could prove important to prosecuting Franklin, he said.

Franklin’s attorney, Louisa Pensanti, was critical of the LAPD for releasing the photos and said more than a dozen of the women were relatives or friends. Pensanti returned a call but did not immediately comment on the case.

Los Angeles Times

I hope that more of these women are identified. Please take a look at the LAPD site here. The police are updating the photos and removing those that are identified so even if you took a look before peek again.

More on the N.Y / N.J (?) Serial Killer?

The FBI has joined the investigation.
I am still waiting for more information. They are still saying that because of the state of decomposition it could be weeks or months before they know the identities of these women.
This of course will make it harder to catch whoever dumped the bodies.
The guy whose home was searched is saying the investigation has ruined his life. I do not know of he has been ruled out as a suspect.

http://abcnews.go.com/assets/player/walt2.6/flash/SFP_Walt_2_65.swf

Grim Sleeper aka Lonnie David Franklin Jr Photos

“These people are not suspects,” Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said of the photos. “We don’t even know if they are victims. … We certainly do not believe that we are so lucky or so good that we know all of the victims. We need the public’s help.”

Serial killer photos

Grim Sleeper Unidentified Photos

Beck also cautioned the public that some of the photos are decades old, and that the women “will have changed, aged.”

The Los Angeles Police Department has tentatively indentified five of the dozens of women found in photos discovered on the “Grim Sleeper” serial killer’s property.

The photos show women ranging from teenagers to others who look as if they’re in their 60s. Some are smiling, others appear to be unconscious.

Doan said that all of the 160 images will remain on the L.A.P.D. website for now.

“We’ll take them down if we’re satisfied that the individual has been possibly identified,” he said.

Los Angeles Police homicide detective Dennis Kilcoyne said various area police websites have recieved over 8 million hits since the photos were made public on Thursday, and the department has recieved hundreds of phone calls.

“Our best wish is that we get a phone call from each and every one of the them and that everyone is OK,” he said.

Detectives also encouraged any of the women who are still alive to come forward and explain how they came to be photographed.

Franklin, a 57-year-old mechanic, was charged with 10 counts of murder and one count of attempted murder in July in the “Grim Sleeper” case. He is accused of murdering 10 young women between 1985 and 2007 in South Los Angeles.

When detectives searched Franklin’s home and surrounding property, they found more than 1,000 photos and hundreds of hours of home video footage in his procession.

“It’s a long period of time that he’s been taking pictures,” Kilcoyne said.

Authorities working on the case said they had been trying to identify the women in the images for months.

The cluster of killings stopped in 1988, but 14 years later police said they linked new murders to the same man. The nickname “Grim Sleeper” came from the long lull between killings. The most recent murder happened in January 2007.

Photos Here

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Update: as of 12/21/10 29 people have been identified.

Los Angeles police detectives say they have tentatively identified about 29 of the 160 women whose photos were found in the home of a man suspected of being the “Grim Sleeper” serial killer.
Detectives said Monday that they were able to remove 29 photos from the collection posted online. They say the majority of the women in the photos are alive and well. A few have died from natural causes and a few are missing persons.
The LAPD website where the photos were posted got thousands of hits and police were inundated with phone calls, emails and other tips.
Last week, police released 180 images that were taken from photographs or home video found in suspect Lonnie Franklin Jr.’s home and garage.

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