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20 Years Later, FBI Profiler Wonders What Jeffrey Dahmer Didn’t Say

MILWAUKEE — It’s been 20 years since the steamy July morning when a screaming man hailed police and led them to the morgue that was Jeffrey Dahmer’s west side Milwaukee apartment.

Dahmer eventually detailed for police a ghastly record of torture and death, but some questions remain on whether anyone will ever know the true extent of Dahmer’s horrors.

Dahmer gave a 159-page confession, but a FBI profiler on the case believes the serial killer kept secrets.

“There was really no trail that led to him until a young man escaped. It could still be going on,” retired FBI agent Neil Purtell said.

Purtell is the retired Wisconsin FBI profiler assigned to the Dahmer case. He doubts anyone will ever know the real extent of Dahmer’s crimes.

“I think very few people ever disclose everything. They always hold something back. That’s their power. That’s their control,” Purtell said.

This is a true point in many cases of serial killers.

Dahmer committed his first known murder at age 18. The second was in 1987.

“They don’t stop. He started after high school. They don’t stop,” Purtell said.

Also very true. They do sometimes have periods of time when they do not kill. As I have said before, life happens. Just like with all of us something comes along and you slow down ‘hobbies’. Serial killers also have to slow down or stop at periods due to other things in their lives.

That sounds so strange but it is true.

Purtell said it is unlikely Dahmer didn’t kill during the nine years between those murders. Dahmer spent the first two years after the first murder in the Army stationed in Germany.

“His roommate while he was in the military has received a disability, in great part because of Dahmer’s activity toward him,” Purtell said.

After Dahmer’s arrest, that Army roommate alleged 18 months of rape and torture at Dahmer’s hands, and German detectives traveled to Wisconsin to question Dahmer about five still-unsolved murders near his Army base.

“We don’t know what he was involved in in Europe, in Germany when he was in the military there,” Purtell said.

I do not have enough information on the European  claims to really form opinion. It is possible that he did not kill since he was out of his comfort zone and had so much else going on.

The Army booted Dahmer for drinking and insubordination and shipped him from Germany to south Florida, where a different homicidal drama soon played out.

A transient, Dahmer was working part-time at a sub shop and sleeping on the beach when the abduction and murder of 6-year-old Adam Walsh captured national headlines.

The Walsh case soon turned cold until Dahmer’s arrest 19 years later, and his front-page photos sparked a flurry of calls to police claiming Dahmer was Adam’s abductor.

“Dahmer was there. Four people who were at that mall identified him after he was arrested by Milwaukee police. They saw his photograph and said that’s the guy that we encountered,” Purtell said.

Dahmer denied killing Adam, so police ruled him out and closed the Walsh case three years ago without new evidence, blaming it on another dead serial killer. The former FBI profiler believes Dahmer is the more likely suspect.

“It’s a leap of imagination to think of a person like this now let loose, drinking a lot and unemployed and stressed out in Florida wouldn’t have engaged in something. It just would be a leap,” Purtell said.

The fact that Jefferey was in a place he was unfamiliar with and that he was drinking as heavily as he was right after being released may actually have kept him from killing.

 “I think Dahmer would have graciously told the coppers that if he’d done anything to that boy,” Dahmer’s attorney Gerald Boyle said.

Dahmer’s lawyer believes his client revealed all his secrets after his arrest, noting Dahmer’s confession ran more than 150 pages.

“He wanted to unload things they didn’t even know happened, probably because that’s how mentally ill he was. He just wanted to tell them everything,” Boyle said.

But Boyle conceded that Dahmer fooled him early on. Boyle defended Dahmer against charges he sexually assaulted a 13-year-old three years before his murder arrests.

“I would have bet the farm that he wasn’t ever capable of hurting anybody,” Boyle said.

Boyle would later learn that at the time of that sexual assault case, Dahmer had already committed four murders.

I am not so sure that Jeffrey would have said that he did it. I do not think that he killed Adam Walsh but not just because he said he didn’t. Serial Killers are liars and they really only confess to what they want to, or if it will save their our asses.

Dahmer was killed in prison in 1994. The profiler said he visited Dahmer routinely before his death and continued to question him about Adam Walsh.

He said Dahmer initially denied killing Walsh but later commented that whoever killed Adam Walsh would not survive in prison, and Florida has the death penalty.

That statement does seem to raise an exclamation mark until you know that the prosecutors from Florida had already spoken with Dahmer and said there would not be a chance for the death penalty if he confessed.

Article and video here.

I wrote about the Dahmer / Toole controversy before, Adam Walsh and the Monsters.

I still stand by the points in that post and my main arguments against Dahmer being Adam’s killer.

Jeffery wanted a companion. Yes, he was attracted to younger looking guys but Adam was a little guy and only 6 years old. He was not what Jeffery was looking for. 
Jeffery was not the abduction type. He lured and drugged and seduced his victims. It was part of the game to him, his fantasy. 
The eye witnesses came forward AFTER seeing Jeffery on the news for his other killings. They were associating him with the crime. One of the witnesses gave a description, then said it could have been the security guard until they saw Jeffery on the news, then they said it was him.
In 1992, Florida police interviewed Dahmer in a prison in Wisconsin. At the request of John Walsh who had heard that some thought that Dahmer could be his son’s killer the Broward County district attorney took the death penalty off the table. They figured that that would increase the odds that Dahmer would confess if he did kill Adam.

I am not saying that Dahmer did not take names to the grave with him I just do not think Adam was one of them.


New York Serial Killer Base Profile

Known Victims To Date

Victims: Top (L to R): Molly Jean Dilts, Shannan Gilbert and Tracy Ann Roberts; Middle (Lto R): Melissa Barthelemy, Barbara Breidor and Kim Raffo; Bottom (L to R):Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Megan Waterman, Amber Lynn Costello

Criminologists have begun to piece together a profile of the serial killer responsible for the murder of up to 13 prostitutes in Long Island and Atlantic city.

According to experts, the man poilce are looking for is a white male in his mid 20’s to mid 40’s,  financially secure, well spoken and drives a nice car or truck.

Able to charm his Craigslist victims into a false sense of security, he will also have access to burlap sacks as part of his job and will have been treated for poison ivy infections received as he disposed of the bodies in thick undergrowth.

The New York Times came up with the chilling portrait after talking to retired and current criminal profilers familiar with the ‘Craigslist ripper’ case.

Speaking to the paper, Scott Bonn, an assistant professor of sociology at Drew University in Madison, N.J. said: ‘This is someone who can walk into a room and seem like your average Joe.

Who Is The Craigslist Ripper

Profilers have described the man as:

  • He is most likely a white male in his mid-20s to mid-40s
  •  He is married or has a girlfriend. He is well educated and well spoken.
  • He is financially secure, has a job and owns an expensive car or truck.
  •  He may have sought treatment at a hospital for poison ivy infection.
  • As part of his job or interests, he has access to, or a stockpile of, burlap sacks.

‘He has to be persuasive enough and rational enough that he is able to convince these women to meet him on these terms.

He has demonstrated social skills. He may even be charming.’

He is also, according to the experts, very familiar with the Long Island beaches where 10 remains have so far been found.

Jim Clemente, a retired FBI investigator in the agency’s behavioural analysis unit, added: ‘He did not stumble upon that location. He has some familiarity with it.’

The ‘Craigslist ripper’ case started in December after the disappearance of 24-year-old Shannan Gilbert, a New Jersey prostitute who advertised on the site.

Although her body has not been found, the remains of 10 others have so far been uncovered with Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, Melissa Barthelemy, 24, Amber Lynn Costello, 27, and  Megan Waterman, 22, the only identified victims so far.

Detectives have also investigated the possibility that the same serial killer may also be responsible for the deaths of  four prostitutes in Atlantic city in 2006.

On Long Island, police returned for another day to the area subjected to land, water and air searches by the FBI and New York authorities from Suffolk and Nassau Counties.

Their most recent discovery earlier this month was two sets of human remains, including a skull.

Nassau Detective Vincent Garcia said police hacked through brush with machetes and chainsaws and used shovels to dig through sand to look for clues.

‘When we found the skull, we were hoping if we went back in we’d find a little bit more,’ Garcia said.

Nassau officer James Imperiale said police found two human teeth about a foot from the skull. It appears the teeth are related to the skull but authorities will run tests to confirm that, he said.

Imperiale said police also found a shoe but were unsure if it was relevant to their search.

‘We’re not sure if it has anything to do with the investigation but we did take it away as well,’ he said.

Sources indicated to the paper that the killer may have a heavily ritualistic element to the way he carries out the murders.

As the first four prostitutes discovered all disappeared in July or September, Mr Clemente said: ‘There may be a seasonal nature to his connection to the area, or to his fantasy and ritual.

‘It may be the time his wife or kids or parents are away for the summer. There are many possibilities.’

The use of increasingly rare burlap sacks also provides another clue as to his modus operandi.

As burlap is no longer a commonly used material, it is more easily traced than plastic.

Mr Clemente added: ‘To me, it takes away from his forensic sophistication and criminal sophistication and adds to the possibility that he is more interested in this ritual aspect.’

The experts also focused on the sadistic element of his crimes, particularly the fact he repeatedly used one of the victim’s mobile phones to call and taunt her teenage sister.

Mr. Clemente said: ‘That gives me an idea that he is a sadist.

‘That would be reflected in his relationship and jobs.

He is the one who laughs when a cat gets run over or a kid falls off his bike. He likes the suffering of others, and he really likes it when he can cause it or witness it.’

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NEW YORK, April 22 (UPI) — The killer who dumped women’s bodies on a Long Island beach east of New York City appears to be organized and methodical, profilers tell The New York Times. The newspaper interviewed several criminologists, including a former FBI profiler. Based on the information now public about the case, they said the killer is probably a white male with an age somewhere between mid 20s and mid 40s, intelligent, with some education and a job, who may live or have lived in the area near his burial ground. “This is someone who can walk into a room and seem like your average Joe,” said Scott Bonn, a sociologist at Drew University in Madison, N.J., who has researched serial killers. “He has to be persuasive enough and rational enough that he is able to convince these women to meet him on these terms. He has demonstrated social skills. He may even be charming.” So far, police have found 10 bodies on a stretch of beach off Ocean Parkway in Suffolk County but have identified only four. They all disappeared in the summer between 2007 and 2010 after advertising sexual services on Craigslist. Jim Clemente, who retired in 2009 as a supervisor in the FBI’s behavioral analysis unit, said the killer did not just stumble on his dumping ground. “He must have some familiarity with it,” he said. Behavioral analysis or profiling is not yet the exact science depicted on TV shows such as “Criminal Minds.” Thus the profile may not help police pick the killer out of the thousands of men who live in or visit that part of Long Island.


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