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Suspected Serial Killer Charged in Alamance Co.

BURLINGTON, N.C. – The man suspected of murdering two Alamance county women made his first court appearance on Thursday.

Robert Foust, who has been serving a 66-year sentence in Scotland County, was transferred to Alamance County and charged with two counts of second degree murder.

According to deputies, Foust is suspected of the deaths of Tamara Ann Liner, 49, of Burlington, and Jana Michelle Morton, 39, of Snow Camp.

According to Sheriff Terry Johnson, Foust has spent a large portion of his life in prison.

“Let’s say he is not a stranger to the criminal justice system,” said the Sheriff.

In 1981, police in Amarillo, Texas charged Foust with assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill. Six years later he was convicted of second degree murder after caving in a drug dealer’s skull with a crowbar while high on cocaine.

Despite recommendations from the department of corrections, Foust was released after serving 13-years of a 40-year sentence.

“We catch them and we feel like sometimes it’s a revolving door. We put them in. They let them out,” said the Sheriff.

Sheriff Johnson believes lenient legislators are to blame for people like Foust slipping through the cracks.

I agree! It is nice to hear someone in law enforcement saying it as well!

“It’s very upsetting as a law enforcement officer, as a sheriff and as a citizen, that our criminal justice system has become so liberal in dealing with the serious offenders “said Johnson.

According to Johnson, “had his sentence been fulfilled, there would be two women living today.”

Article and a video.

These women would not have been killed by this man had our justice system done it’s job instead of letting a violent person back out onto the streets.

Jana Morton & Tamara Liner

Tapes Might Prove More Manson Family Murders

LOS ANGELES — Los Angeles police detectives are seeking to review old audio tapes of conversations between Manson Family member Charles “Tex” Watson and his former lawyer, hoping they will shed light on any additional murders the cult may have committed.

The eight hours of recorded discussions between Watson and attorney Bill Boyd were made more than 40 years ago and have surfaced as a part of a bankruptcy case involving Boyd’s now-defunct Texas law firm.

“We are trying to get our hands on a copy of those recordings,” Los Angeles police commander Andrew Smith told Reuters on Friday. “We are doing this to be extraordinarily thorough. We think it’s good police work to continue to pay attention to these cases.”

Smith said the recordings were made in 1969 or 1970, following Watson’s arrest for murders carried out at the direction of Charles Manson that were among the 20th century’s most infamous crimes.

But detectives had no access to the tapes until Watson, now 66 and serving a life prison term in California, waived his attorney-client privilege so that they could be sold to satisfy unpaid legal fees. Boyd died in 2009.

In a letter to a U.S. Department of Justice trustee obtained by local KNBC-TV, Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck requested that the recordings be given to his detectives.

“The LAPD has information that Mr. Watson discussed additional unsolved murders committed by followers of Charles Manson,” Beck said in the March 19 letter.

A bankruptcy court hearing has been scheduled for next week in Plano, Texas, to determine if the tapes should be handed over to Los Angeles police investigators.

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I am not so sure that there would be any incriminating information on the tapes since Watson waived his rights. He comes up for parole and knows that they will charge him if they can. Still, he was pretty brain-dead back then and he might not remember all that he said.

We can hope.

What is a psychopath?

Tell me that these ‘kids’ do not fit the description.



Scary thing is that these ‘kids’ will (probably) are back on the streets.



What should be done with the brutal young offenders who fit into adult classifications yet are to young to be classified?

25 States Considering Online Animal Abuser Registries

Lansing, MI – The Animal Legal Defense Fund is leading the campaign for online registries to list convicted animal abusers. Three New York counties, which have already approved the registries, will be the first in the nation to utilize them beginning May 7.  Twenty-five states in total have been considering similar laws since 2010.

Cotati, of the California based Legal Defense Fund, says a few of the other states considering similar bills include California, Connecticut, Florida, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Texas.

The bills being introduced throughout the country are meant to put animal abusers up for public scorn as well as notify the public of those involved in animal abuse/neglect.

Many backers of this legislation claim the bills recognize a growing awareness of animal rights, as well as the public safety benefits of stopping abusers. Many feel stopping animal abusers early is key as many studies have shown that animal abusers often go on to harming humans.

Representative Harvey Santana, of Michigan, says “There’s a mountain of evidence that says we need something like this. There is a strong correlation between people who abuse animals and graduate to abusing people.”

According to a 1997 study done by Northeastern University and the Massachusetts SPCA, a person who abuses or kills animals is five time more likely to commit violence against people and four times more likely to commit property crimes.  Serial killers who have abused or killed animals include the Boston strangler Albert Desalvo, ‘Son of Sam’ David Berkowitz and Carroll Edward Cole.

Stephen Wells, executive director of the fund, says “It’s frustrating to see repeat offenders commit these crimes and get away with it in the people’s eyes. The registries appeal to people’s common sense.”

Not all animal rights organizations agree or support the initiative.

According to Wayne Pacelle, chief executive of the Humane Society of the U.S., tracking abuse in FBI data would do more to prevent it. Pacelle continued by saying that many people involved in neglecting animals are mentally ill. “Shaming them with a public internet profile is unlikely to affect their future behavior,” says Pacelle. He believes it will only “isolate them further from society and promote increased distrust of the authority figures trying to help them.”

Stephanie Bell, associate director of cruelty investigations for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals says PETA supports the use of registries stating “community members have a right to know when a convicted animal abuser is in their midst.  People who abuse animals rarely do so only once.”

Roy Gross, head of Suffolk County’s SPCA, administer of Suffolk Country’s registry, says “If you had a convicted animal abuser next to you, wouldn’t you want to know?”


I wrote about the link between violence and animal abuse not to long ago.

I do realise that this (if anyone in the general public can get the information) could cause problems for people with mental conditions, but it might also force some to get help. It might also prevent someone from hurting animals or people.

I think that we need to do something, whether it be the FBI tracking or some kind of notification to the public. I want to know that my pets are safe as well as knowing if my neighbors have a history of abuse of any kind.

Maybe they do not have to go so far as to make the records 100% public, maybe make it available to local law enforcement and fire departments? That way if a complain or questionable action happens (pets start to go missing for example) the police know where to maybe start to look?

I do think that they need to have a system for local shelters so that people who have abused in the past can not go adopt there. From there letting local law enforcement know would be easy and responsible.


Son of Sam Speaks of God

At 58, he’s balding, and his remaining hair is solid white. But the biggest difference is in his eyes.

Oh! Give me a BREAK! *Sorry, couldn't stop that outburst*

Do you see a difference?


When David Berkowitz made headlines in the 1970s as the serial killer “Son of Sam” in New York City, his bold glare was brazen and threatening. Thursday, on videotape from a prison in Fallsburg, N.Y., there was a near-peaceful glint in his eyes as he addressed the 28th annual Suffolk Leadership Prayer Breakfast.

“I came to prison with no hope, no direction, no reason to live,” he said from a screen suspended above the meeting room at the Suffolk National Guard Armory. “After 10 years in prison, I met Christ, confessed to God. I asked him to please forgive me.”

Berkowitz, who now calls himself “Son of Hope,” spoke at the breakfast that is held each year on the National Day of Prayer. Organizers typically don’t announce who the guest speaker is going to be, but this year’s video appearance by Berkowitz was more of a surprise than usual.

“It was different,” City Councilman Leroy Bennett said afterward. “I talked with people when it was over, and I think everybody was impressed. It was interesting. I think he has honestly changed his life and feels the Lord has blessed him.”

Through Norfolk lawyer Stephen D. Lentz, who was sent to New York to interview Berkowitz, the convicted killer said his message is that God can forgive anyone.

The selection of Berkowitz as speaker was a marked contrast to other recent speakers – people such as a retired Air Force colonel who was a POW in Iraq, the founder of Habitat for Humanity, and Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell.

“No matter where you go or what you’ve done, you can’t get away from God,” said lawyer Randy Singer, who introduced Berkowitz to the capacity crowd at the early-morning event.

Berkowitz was born in Brooklyn, N.Y., and adopted by the owners of a hardware store. In the murders he was convicted of in 1978, he claimed a demon-possessed dog owned by his neighbors commanded the slayings. Berkowitz was arrested in August 1977.

The writer of this story does not say how Berkowitz later admitted to lying and that he actually killed because he hates women. We will get to that. I am curious as to why the writer does not mention all that though.

When finally captured, he said, “You got me. What took you so long?” according to a website about his history. Berkowitz, who killed six and wounded several others in eight total shootings, was known for using a .44-caliber Bulldog revolver.

In 1987, he became a born-again Christian after an invitation from another prisoner and now devotes his time to a prison ministry. He has in recent years refused to attend his parole hearings, saying he believes he needs to spend the rest of his life in prison.

“You are one prayer away from God doing something miraculous in your life,” Berkowitz said. “God bless each and every one of you.”

Pilot writer Jeff Sheler contributed to this report.


I can not believe that people are buying Berkowitz’s b.s.!

I know, you want to ask how can I know that it is bull? Isn’t it between him and God? How can another see inside a man’s heart?

Well, let’s start with the fact that his parole is coming up in May. He might not ‘fight’ for it but he still comes up for it. If he gets it he can not say “no thank you.” either. So it would seem like he was forced to leave prison. He can still get paroled and I believe 100% that he is hoping for it. He is posturing for the board. Every time that he has a parole date coming up he starts with some kind of outreach and his website becomes more active. He gets his “Christian” message out. His last parole chance was in 2010, it was the 5th time he had been denied.

Let’s also look at the fact that he has used religion repeatedly to try to get what he wants. Originally it was demons in dogs and his neighbors that made him kill. Remember?

Howling dogs in the neighborhood kept Berkowitz from sleeping and in his deranged mind, he turned their howls into messages from demons that were ordering him to go kill women. He later said that in attempt to quiet the demons, he began to do what they asked. Jack and Nann Cassara owned the home and in time Berkowitz became convinced that the quiet couple was in truth, part of the demon conspiracy, with Jack being General Jack Cosmo, commander in chief of the dogs that tormented him.
A Thirst for Blood:
When he moved away from the Cassaras into an apartment on Pine Street, he failed to escape the controlling demons. His new neighbor, Sam Carr, had a black Labrador named Harvey, who Berkowitz believed was also possessed. He eventually shot the dog, but that did not offer him relief because he had come to believe that Sam Carr was possessed by the most powerful demon of them all, possibly Satan himself. Nightly the demons screamed at Berkowitz to go kill, their thirst for blood unquenchable.

David later admitted that was bull.

While he was still active, Berkowitz was profiled as being a paranoid schizophrenic believing himself to be the victim of demonic possession. He later admitted in an interview conducted by FBI veteran Robert Ressler in prison that he had pretended to be insane to get a lighter punishment and that he actually killed out of resentment towards his mother and contempt for women in general.

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I know, you are thinking he was still “messed up” then. David could have changed since then. He really could have found God and changed. The problem there is that he is still lying and he still does not accept full responsibility for what he has done.

A while back David was contacted by a writer named Maury Terry. Mr. Terry was jumping on the Satanic Panic  boat that was sweeping the world at that time. His book basically blamed Satanists for almost every crime ever committed. In just a quick search can you find quite a few links showing how wrong Mr. Terry was. He even settled lawsuits out of court due to the misinformation in his book.

There was 1 church that Terry (and an associate Ed Saunders) really had their minds on, The Process Church. Now I am not saying that I know all about them but they are really not a secret organization and getting information is not hard at all.

The Process Church combined community activism with a peculiar set of beliefs: Jehovah, Christ, Satan and Lucifer were not enemies, but all equal parts of Creation

For an in-depth article on the Process Church (and splinter groups) as well as a good look at the conspiracy theories this next site is excellent!

In The Ultimate Evil, Terry attempts to paint a picture (with a very, very broad brush) of a super-secret, underground Satanic network of serial killers, rapists, drug dealers and child pornographers running amok on the American landscape, including an “Occult Superstar” he calls Manson II. Most of Terry’s claims that the Process splintered and went underground to form a bloodthirsty group of gore gangsters, are simply too absurd to be believable and he offers almost no credible substantiation for his claims. More here

Once Mr. Terry spoke with Berkowitz he (Berkowitz) decided that he had done some (not all) of the killings and was a look out for the Process Church in NY. Oh! He also became a Satanist. Just like other serial killers. He was part of the cult and the killings were rituals (because ALL cults sacrifice people using guns, have for ages!) Yep, that’s the ticket. Not the old lie of Demon Dogs and Demonic Neighbors. It was really Satan himself and his minions in the evil Cult that did the murders. David only went along out of fear, I guess.?  Maybe he wanted to be one of the cool kids and since all the other cool kids were killing people?

 He still makes these claims (in various forms) to this day, on his sites. Yes, he has sites and an online journal! Of course he does not have internet in prison but he has people on the outside that run the sites for him.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

In 1975 I met some guys at a party who, I later found out, were heavily involved in the occult. I had always been fascinated with witchcraft, Satanism, and occult things since I was a child. When I was growing up, I watched countless horror and Satan-type movies, some of which totally captivated my mind.

Now I was 22 and the forces of Satan were becoming more and more evident in my life. I felt as if something was trying to take control of my life. I began to read the Satanic Bible by the late Anton LaVey who founded the Church of Satan in San Francisco in 1966. I began, innocently, to practice various occult rituals and incantations.

I am utterly convinced that something satanic had entered into my mind and, looking back at all that happened, I realize that I had been slowly deceived. I did not know that bad things were going to result from all this, yet over the months the things that were wicked no longer seemed to be such. I was headed down the road to destruction and I did not know it. Maybe I was at a point where I just didn’t care.


That all started right after he met Maury Terry. Neither of them were very good at getting facts straight about things that they were either involved in or that they were supposed to be experts about.

More recently, a book was published that claimed a second mass murderer, David Berkowitz, the “Son of Sam” was also a member of The Process. The book stated that The Process was a network of killers and that Berkowitz was a look-out who did not take part in all of the killings. This conflicts with the police investigators who believed that Berkowitz was operating on his own. If they thought otherwise, the police certainly would have investigated the Church. Berkowitz claimed to have been a Satanist, and to have converted to Evangelical Christianity in prison. He claimed that the “Sam” in “Son of Sam” came from the name of the Celtic God of the Dead, Samhain (which he pronounced “Sam-hane”). His story is suspect, because:

bullet his pronunciation of “Samhain” is incorrect;
bullet the Celts never worshiped a God of the Dead;
bullet there is no Celtic God by the name of Samhain;
bullet Satanists do not worship Celtic Gods, and
bullet the Process Church no longer existed at the time of the Son of Sam murders.

In reality, Samhain means “end of summer.” It was a Celtic seasonal day of celebration, and remains a Wiccan Sabbat.


There is this as well

I first learned in 1987 that some of the conspiracy literature regarding The Process Church was either dishonest or was poorly fact-checked. After hearing a rumor that Robert de Grimston was listed in the Staten Island phone book under his given name Robert Moor, I called him up—that is, after certain hesitation. After all, Maury Terry’s

The Ultimate Evil informs us that de Grimston is a diabolical mystery man who had removed himself from the world at large to pursue the practice of evil. What was he doing so easily reached in the phone book? And how confident could I be of Maury Terry’s research if he couldn’t even bother locating Robert de Grimston by calling the Information operator?

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Yeah, so forgive me if I am doubting his authenticity now.  David Berkowitz has a history of trying to use religion to get himself whatever he wants.

He apologizes all the time now. They are obviously empty. Let’s just take a second to think about those apologies.

Either Berkowitz killed all those people himself, no cult or occult directives or he knows who actually did the killings that he did not through the cult connection.

He could give the families closure, he could have the bad guys taken off of the streets, he could but he hasn’t and he won’t.

His apologies are empty without truth and this ‘man’ is a liar.

Liars are not Christians.

Berkowitz (imo) can not be a Christian since he can not be truthful.

Berkowitz: “I made a lot of bad choices. I made a lot of bad mistakes. I’m truly sorry for the lives that were destroyed. I’d like to say that I’m very, very sorry.”

He is just not sorry enough to either testify before a grand jury and move the whole supposed conspiracy case forward or close it forever by admitting once and for all, he was in fact the lone gunman responsible for the Son of Sam shootings.


I do wonder what else he gets for being a “Good Christian Leader”. There have to be little perks, if not from the prison than from all the actually good (and naive) people who write to him, the write for him, that add to his commissary and accept his calls so that he is not lonely. I am sure some even visit. It is sad that he is being allowed to do all of this.


Serial Killer Lyle Brummett Might be Getting Out

Jesse Sublett received a letter from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in March saying that the man who was convicted of killing his girlfriend and another woman in the 1970s would be released on parole.

His reaction was visceral.

“‘Stunned’ is not the word,” Sublett said. “It’s like getting run over by a truck. You can’t even move.”

In March, Sublett and relatives of two other murder victims tied to convicted killer Lyle Richard Brummett received three different letters with conflicting information about whether Brummett would be released.

One letter said that he would be paroled, but the last one said the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles has flagged Brummett for “special review.”

Brummett has been up for parole before, and Sublett said that each time, family and friends of his victims have written letters to the parole board asking that he not be released. This is the first time they’ve received a letter saying Brummett had been approved for release.

Now, Sublett says he and others will travel to Huntsville on May 11 to address the board members in person. They said based on his history of multiple rapes and murders, they hope to make the case that Brummett, now 55, should not be released.

“This guy is not someone who has just made a few mistakes,” Sublett said.

Rissie Owens, the presiding officer for the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, said the board will review new information that is sent to them. After May 11, she said, they could grant or deny parole to Brummett.

“All options are open at this time,” Owens said. “We will review all information and make a decision at this time.”

The information sent to the board could include letters, phone calls and statements from victims’ family members.

It was not clear whether Brummett has an attorney.

On Aug. 16, 1976, Sublett returned to his South Austin home to find his girlfriend, 22-year-old Dianne Roberts, lying in their bed naked with a pillowcase wrapped around her neck.

Sublett, a musician and member of the influential Austin punk band the Skunks, said investigators initially suspected he was the killer. But he pointed them to Brummett, a laborer and friend of his roommate’s who had recently been charged with and was awaiting trial on two rapes in Kerrville, he said.

When Brummett was arrested and questioned by Austin police, he told them that he had killed two other young women in Kerrville — different crimes from the rapes he had been charged with.

Police drove to the city northwest of San Antonio and began searching a grassy pasture around midnight.

Eight hours later, they found the remains of Beth Pearson, 15, and Carol Ann London, 18. Both had been missing for nearly a year, and their families had assumed they had run away together.

Brummett told investigators he had an accomplice in those crimes: Alan Ladd Woody, then 20. Investigators said Woody and Brummett picked up the two girls after their car broke down and then raped and killed them.

Based largely on Brummett’s testimony, Woody was convicted of murdering Pearson in April 1977.

A few days later, Brummett pleaded guilty in Kerrville to London’s murder and was sentenced to life in prison. Later that month, Brummett pleaded guilty in Austin to Roberts’ murder as well and was given a second life sentence to be served concurrent with the first.

When will a life sentence actually mean that? The Justice System has to stop using it as a threat and maybe then criminals will worry about getting that as a sentence. Right now I have a feeling most hear “Life” and think “ok, so about 10-15 years tops?”


Life in prison should mean just that you WILL spend your LIFE, the whole thing, in prison!

On March 5 of this year, the department sent a letter to the families of Brummett’s victims saying he had been denied parole.

Then on March 15, another letter was mailed, this time saying Brummett was “tentatively approved … for release to parole supervision.”

Owens said a board panel interviewed Brummett and voted to release him into treatment but then realized he did not qualify for it.

Finally, on March 23, after calls and letters from the families of the victims, a third letter was sent, saying that because of the receipt of “additional information not previously available to the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles,” Brummett is being considered for “special review.”

Verna Lee Carr, an Austin-based victim advocate, said that in her 22-year career working with victims of violent crimes, she has never seen three conflicting documents mailed out as they did in this case.

“I was furious” after seeing the letter saying Brummett would be released, said Pearson’s brother, Martin Valance.

“You’ve got a serial rapist and a serial killer on your hands, and I don’t think the state cares,” said Valance, who now lives near Tyler. “I’ve got a family who’s scared to death.”

Why is his case under “special review”? What reason(s) could they possibly have to put the families (and the communities) through all of this? Does the parole board have no conscious?

Did he find God or learn to poop rainbows in prison? (By the way, that whole finding God is not impressive to ma At All!)

Why are they even considering letting him out?

I can only imagine what these families are going through. This is sadistic. Why are they doing this to the families? My heart goes to them. They deserve peace not continued abuse. They especially do not deserve to be getting abused by the very system that is supposed to protect them from monsters like this.

I signed the petition. I hope that it helps.

To read Jesse Sublett’s full account of this horror please read his blog here.

If you would like to let the parole board know how you feel about letting this serial raping murderer out of prison click here

Group Wants Serial Killer’s Street Renamed

Cleveland Group: “Rename Serial Killer’s Old Street”

 CLEVELAND (AP) – Some neighbors of a now-demolished home where the remains of 11 murdered women were found want the street renamed to escape the stigma of the crimes.

A task force representing residents, business owners, ministers and relatives of victims are proposing the renaming of Imperial Avenue, the street where Anthony Sowell lived in the impoverished Mount Pleasant neighborhood east of downtown.

Some relatives say the victims’ families should memorialize the women as they choose and that the city should leave the property empty and not add the names of victims to any memorial.

“My mother is resting now, and I don’t want her name on anything over there,” said Donnita Carmichael, whose mother Tonia Carmichael was killed by Sowell.

“Would your kids play in that park? Would you eat or plant anything that came from a community garden grown on that soil? I don’t think so.”

The house was fenced off and kept intact for Sowell’s trial last year, when the jury toured the site. It was demolished in December.

City Councilman Ken Johnson said the task force was a council-driven effort, and the group is expected to make a recommendation to council members in the next couple months.

“It is a bad memory for the people on the street, and the landlords can’t rent their property,” Johnson said. “Nobody wants to live there because of what happened.”

Sowell, 52, is appealing his conviction and death sentence to the Ohio Supreme Court.

How? On what basis? Is he serious? What is his excuse for the bodies found in his house and yard going to be? Gremelins planted them?

The murdered women began vanishing in 2007. Police discovered 10 bodies and a skull at Sowell’s house in late 2009 after officers went there on a woman’s report that she had been raped at the home.

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What is your opinion?

Do you try to move on? Make a garden, a park or something?

Do you have a plaque, a bench, a memorial at all?

Do you just leave it empty, open, fenced off as a reminder? For how long?

I say made a nice garden, with benches, small seats one for each victim. It does not have to be a place where children play, I can see the public being uncomfortable with that.

I also think that the families need to have a say, a strong say.


Helping Victims of Crime

The FBI is now using therapy dogs to help victims. I think it is a great idea!

Rachel Pierce is a victim specialist in our Office for Victim Assistance. Her partner is an 8-year-old German Shepherd/Siberian Husky mix, and together they form a unique and remarkable team.

The FBI uses a variety of working dogs, highly capable canines that can sniff out drugs and bombs, bolster security, and alert their handlers when they pick up the scent of blood. But Dolce, with his shimmering yellow coat and steel blue eyes, is the Bureau’s one and only therapy dog.

The job of a victim specialist, or VS, is to ensure that victims receive the rights they are entitled to under federal law and the assistance they need to cope with crime. With his lovable personality, Dolce excels at comforting crime victims and their families. The story of how he became a VS—of the K9 variety—is a story in itself.

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Oscar Ray Bolin: Rosalie Martinez supports husband at his latest trial for 1986 fatal stabbing | Mail Online

Oscar Ray Bolin: Rosalie Martinez supports husband at his latest trial for 1986 fatal stabbing | Mail Online.

This is a horrible story all the way around.

A public defender who left her husband to marry a serial killer on death row has appeared by his side as he goes on trial for a 1986 killing.

Rosalie Martinez met killer Oscar Ray Bolin Jr., 50, after working with him on one of his rape and murder cases in 1995 and married him soon after.

He is now on trial in Florida for the fourth time in the murder of Natalie Blanche Holley, a 25-year-old who was stabbed eight times in 1986.

It is the 10th time he has been on trial for attacking and killing three women in Tampa: Holley, Stephanie Collins and Terri Matthews.

The former truck driver has been convicted nine times, but he’s been retried three times in the Matthews and Collins cases.

Every time he goes to trial she is there to support him! How? Why? Each of his previous convictions were overturned on b.s. technicalities, not a lack of proof. 
Yet Rosalie Martinez decided to leave her husband, lose her kids and marry him.

In 1995, public defender Rosalie Martinez was married to a prominent lawyer, with whom she had four young daughters. Then she met Oscar Ray Bolin, Jr.

The convicted serial killer was already on death row in Florida when she visited him in his cell to talk about his case.

‘I felt his isolation, his confinement, his loneliness. It affected me because I felt the same way. And it left me breathless,’ she told the L.A. Times.

She accepted that he had pleaded guilty to a gunpoint rape, but was adamant he was no killer, and was desperate to prove his innocence.

Because raping someone at gun point is such a far leap from killing someone. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Martinez became estranged from her family and quit the public defender’s office after jail officials said she had sex with Bolin in his cell.

Yes, she quit her job before she was fired for having sex with a rapist and killer in his jail cell! Beyond stupid! This is groupie actions.

In 1996, the pair married over the phone, whiles she was in a Gainesville, Florida apartment and he was in jail, she told the L.A. Times.

She stood by his side and helped defend him through the trials for the murders of Natalie Holley, Terri Matthews and Stephanie Collins.

Despite a public showing of affection at his early re-trials, she has since expressed doubts that she should have married him.

She told the Tampa Bay Times that the marriage was not out of attraction, but was a ‘great personal sacrifice’ to bring attention to what she believed was a terrible injustice.

I am calling Bull here, she choose to have sex with him in his cell, which meant her giving up job and destroying her family. Now all of a sudden she is trying to play the role of some kind of  martyr??? Bull!

Asked if she would do it again, she said: ‘Let’s just say I’d tweak it.’

But she maintains his innocence: ‘It’s not Oscar’s fault he’s here a fourth time,’ she said at the jury selection on Monday.


No, it is his fault, he killed those girls and won’t even ‘fess to it. It is all his fault.
Serial killer groupies are one thing that I will never understand.
As far as the trial, he is not up for death here, he is already on death row.

Three previous convictions and two death sentences for Holley’s murder did not survive appeals. Bolin has been brought back from death row for a fourth attempt at a Holley conviction that sticks. It’s no longer a death penalty case. The charge is second-degree murder.

It’s not unusual to prosecute death row inmates for other crimes that don’t carry the death penalty. Reasons include the unpredictable outcome of many death penalty cases, the heinous nature of the offenses and the desire for justice on behalf of the victims’ families.



As far as Bolin, in case you are worried about him:

Although Bolin has developed diabetes on death row, he looked fit and groomed Monday. He has physically outlasted Holley’s mother, who sat through his previous trials, as did mothers of Bolin’s other two victims. Holley’s mother is now ailing and uses a wheelchair, unable to attend trial No. 4.

She had always hoped for the death penalty.

The rest of this article is here.


Damn shame he is in better shape than the mother of the girl he killed.

Charlie Manson Up For Parole AGAIN

After 11 failed bids for freedom, notorious killer Charles Manson, now 77, is up for parole later this month.

The parole board rejected his bid in 2007, saying Manson  “continues to pose an unreasonable danger to others and may still bring harm to anyone he would come in contact with.”

Manson refused to participate in that hearing, describing himself as a “prisoner of the political system.” He also declined to participate in any psychological evaluations in 2007.

PHOTOS: The Manson murders

 The psych tests would probably be more like filling in a “Mad-Libs”  No, I don’t think Charlie is nuts, I think he has an enormous ego, that he loves to act like the Mad Hatter and he loves the attention it gets him.

“He refused to cooperate, so the conclusion they drew from the reports is he still remains a danger to the public,” Los Angeles County Deputy Dist. Atty. Patrick Sequeira said at the time. “He was convicted of nine horrible murders. He has expressed no remorse or empathy for any of the victims.”

A new photo released by state prison system shows Manson with long, gray hair and a beard. It was released at the request of CNN in advance of next Wednesday’s parole hearing.

Charles Manson

Manson was also convicted of the earlier murder of musician Gary Hinman in his Topanga Canyon home, and the slaying of former stuntman Donald “Shorty” Shea at the Spahn movie ranch in Chatsworth, where Manson had his commune.

For those that like say that Manson never actually hurt anyone please read up on these murders.

Manson initially was sentenced to death. A 1972 ruling by the California Supreme Court found the state’s death penalty law at the time unconstitutional and his death sentence was changed in 1977 to life in prison with the possibility of parole.

Here are earlier photos (of Charles Manson) taken in 1968 and 2009:


Why do we keep playing the game? No one is going to let him out and he does not want to get out. This is a waste of tax payer’s money and it is a source of pain for the many lives he effected, infected and destroyed.


Here is a link to a site with a lot of info on the Manson Murders.


From an earlier hearing.


A video of the Ranch and some of the family members.

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