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One or two? Not enough information yet.

Barbara Breidor, Kim Raffo, Molly Dilts, Tracy Roberts

I have a habit of getting little obsessions and since this is my blog I am going to indulge myself here. I am sorry if I ramble and also sorry for how long this will be. Maybe it will end up as a few separate posts. *

For the last few days and nights I have been reading whatever I can find on the 4 murdered women found in New York 12/15/10 and the 4 dead women found in New Jersey 11/20/06. I have been trying to figure out if in my opinion there is one or two serial killers to blame. I keep bouncing back and forth due to lack of information in both cases.

I have went back and found as many article as I could on the New Jersey case but even with many years passing the police have released little. What I have been able to find out is:

  • All four women were facing the same direction, east, looking towards the boardwalk and the casinos. Although it was called a dump site the women had been placed there not simply thrown there like trash. I suppose the speculation about the killer carrying and placing the victims in a way that led to the all facing east could be valid but I don’t think that was the case. I think that they were placed there and their heads were turned to face the casinos on purpose. It brought to my mind Edmund Kemper who placed one of his victim’s in the yard facing his mom’s window. I do wonder if the killer wanted these women to look over at him as he did his work on the boardwalk.
  • All four were barefoot, no socks and no shoes. Although I saw reports of people talking about the prostitutes in that area running around without shoes this was late November in NJ. I think it would have been too cold for this to have been the case. It could have been a way for the killer to slow down any escape attempt but I tend to lean with those that think the killer had either a foot or a shoe fetish.
  • Two were strangled with either a cord or a rope. The other two were too decomposed to give a definite cause of death but I am willing to  guess that all were killed in the same manner.
  • All the woman were addicted to drugs or alcohol before they were killed. They were found to have very high amounts of the drug of their choice in their systems. I find this interesting since it implies that the killer could have given the women those large amounts as a way to entice them and or sedate them. It is not often that ‘working girls’ can afford very large amounts of their drug and in this case all 4 were able to obtain large enough amounts that it was notable by the police and the press. It also makes me wonder if he knew them or if he at least spent enough time with them to know their vices.
  • The women were all dumped (placed) within about a month and 1/2 of each other. They seemed to have been killed and discarded in a short time. The dump site was found was found within 24 hours of the last victim being put there.

Molly Dilts last seen 10/07/06

Barbara Breidor last seen 10/17/06

Tracy Roberts last seen mid November (07-15) 06

Kim Raffo last seen 11/19/06

Bodies discovered 11/20/06

  • The women were discovered in shallow running water, probably an attempt to wash away any evidence. It seems to have worked.

Once the bodies were found the killer seemed to have stopped killing.

Maybe it was that the bodies were found. It scared him. Made him stop for a while and he had to get his satisfaction just reading reports and following the investigation through the press. If he was like many other killers he knew a cop or a reporter or maybe someone that was in that area that would have been there when the police were there. He got his thrills that way, vicariously. It was enough to quell his want. That would only last for so long.

Then other things popped up and he did just stop killing. He might have, I know it is a popular idea that serial killers can not just stop but that is not entirely true. Just like the rest of us, serial killers have lives and sometimes their lives ‘interfere’ (for lack of a better word) with things like killing. Maybe he got a new job, had a new baby, got married, had a death in th family or any other ‘normal’ thing. The things that would normally take our time away from the internet, shopping, bar hopping, socializing; take a serial killer away from his fantasies, his ‘hunting’ and his killing.

All of that is possible. It is also possible that he did stop because his dumping and hunting grounds were discovered. Maybe he did stop the killing and enjoyed his ‘fame’ and the fact that the cops had no clue. He probably still stalked & hunted but because the police were so close he new that he he could not act on his desires. He also learned from his mistakes. He evolved and in doing so found a new way to hunt and a new place to dispose of his victims.

Hence the reason I still wonder if the two ‘dumping’ grounds are connected to the same killer.

There are many differences, some very important, that have me sitting on the fence. I can not say that he did start stalking on Craigslist so that his victims were not locals. I can not say that he did choose another place to place his victims.

I do not think that he just died or was arrested the day after the bodies were found.

I actually think that the ‘dumping grounds’ show that is very well could be 2 killers.

There were a few suspects in the New Jersey case but none were firm. Terry Oleson was the most ‘popular’ suspect. He was charged with video taping his ex’s daughter. I just do not think it was him. He might have been a slime ball but I do not think he was capable of these murders. Whatever else he did, on the limited information that I have I doubt he had anything to do with these killings.

I will go into the New York Victims soon. Then compare contrast and maybe then I can give an honest opinion without boncing back and forth.

This is over 1,000 words now and other things call so I will have to do that later.

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Currently Reading

I am one of those annoying people that marks her books up underlining, highlighting, writing motes in the margins and sometimes arguing with the author.
Right now I am reading Serial Killers: The Method and Madness of Monsters by Peter Vronsky. It is not a bad book, it is a little dated (BTK was still unidentified) and I have made many notes in the margins with updates.
I am going to write more specifics as I read along but right now I want to say that the book is very swayed by the author’s experience. When he writes about the serial killers in the 1960’s you can tell that the book was not written by an expert in sociology or in criminal behavior. He talks about some events as if the entire world saw it that way, but in reality it is his opinion. Usually rather than take away from the book it adds to it with a personal perspective that ‘expert’ authored books sometimes miss.
The biggest problem with his lack of expertise is that he concentrates more on the ‘popular’ Serial Killers and often quotes or references other true crime writers rather than official sources. When explaining the Organized Serial Killer he has 40 pages on Ted Bundy and mostly refers to things written by Ann Rule. I am not saying that is a bad thing in itself but the author then spends a mere 1 paragraph explaining the disorganized killer by using Miguel Rivera. The fact that the author choose to delve so deeply into Bundy, even after admitting that there are volumes upon volumes already on Bundy and then only glossing over on the opposite side is telling.
In all fairness Mr. Vronsky admits right off that he is not an expert. His interest in the subject was spurred by having fleeting meetings with 2 serial killers in his lifetime. He bumped into Richard Cottingham (nicknamed the New York Torso Killer) in a motel in NY and spoke briefly with Andrei Chikatilo (The Rostov Ripper) in Russia while making a documentary.

I am still pretty much in the beginning chapters. The book is a good read but it is definitely not a deep probe into the mind of serial killers as of yet.

I’ll write more later.
Lisa

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