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Ian Brady WOULD kill again……..

The Moors Murderers.

Myra Hindley and Ian Brady

Original Article


By Patrick Sawer 7:45AM GMT 09 Jan 2011

The 73-year-old convict “wishes the world ill” and expresses no remorse for killing five children with his lover Myra Hindley between 1963 and 1965. If he had the opportunity, he would be likely to shoot people he had a grudge against.

The conclusions emerged from an unprecedented six-year dialogue between Brady and Dr Chris Cowley, which provide the clearest insight into Brady’s mindset since he was imprisoned in 1966.

In letters and in interviews carried out at Ashworth high-security hospital in Merseyside, Brady:

* Dismisses the Moors murders as “an existential exercise” with their own ‘value’.

I would love to know what frigging value he puts on these horrific acts!

* Compares himself favourably to statesmen including Tony Blair, claiming they have committed worse crimes than his.

* Says he turned down several opportunities to escape shortly after his arrest in October 1965.

Brady – who has been told that he will never be released – emerges from the study as a sociopath with few redeeming features, showing no compassion or feeling for anyone other than himself.

He has been confined to Ashworth since 1985, when was declared criminally insane after spending twenty years in normal prisons. He and Hindley were sentenced to life for the killings of Lesley Ann Downey, 10, and Edward Evans, 17; Brady was also convicted of killing John Kilbride, 12.

Later the pair admitted two additional murders, of Pauline Reade, 16 and Keith Bennett, 12.

For the past eight years Brady has been on hunger strike, insisting he wants to die and surviving only by being force fed twice a day by staff at Ashworth. In 2000 a judicial review refused to overturn the decision to keep him alive.

IMO, this is one guy that should be allowed to off himself.

Dr Cowley, who runs courses for police officers and social workers, began writing to Brady six years ago as part of his research on the profiling of serial killers.

After gaining Brady’s trust Dr Cowley held a number of face to face meetings with him at Ashworth, from which he wrote a book published this month, Face To Face With Evil.

I want  to read this book. If anyone has read it I would love to hear your comments on it.

In it he concludes that if Brady was ever released from custody – something no Government has been prepared to countenance – he would “probably” resume killing.

I am willing to bet that Brady would kill as long as he was physically able. He states above that he would likely shoot people, makes me think that even as he sits in an institution he is wanting and planning on the next kill. His fantasies still playing in his mind.

In the interviews, Brady told Dr Cowley that paintballing is “no substitute for the real thing”, that  “at least Columbine [the massacre of US high school students by two fellow pupils] demonstrates that there is some spine left in America” and that “I wish this place and this country and this world ill.”

He seems to be connecting killing with bravery? I wonder if he actually followed the killings or if he only heard that there were shootings. I also wonder if knowing the details would change anything in his mind?

On one unsettling occasion, Brady suggested that Dr Cowley should kill his own boss over a minor bureaucratic dispute. At another point he stated: “There is no great gulf between the criminal and others except the will to enact.”

Dr Cowley told The Sunday Telegraph: “Ian Brady is a sociopath who shows no remorse and no compassion. He will only do things for other people if he has something to gain. He intellectualized his murders, calling them his ‘existential exercise’ – which he planned in advance in careful detail – or ‘that Moors business’, as if they were a glitch in his great criminal career.

“His only thought for the victims or their families is what he can get out of it. He would kill again without a thought for anyone who gets in his way.

For him it’s like swatting a fly, which is how he regarded the children he murdered.

In his letters to Dr Cowley, Brady repeatedly dismisses the scale and significance of his crimes in comparison to the killings carried out by Governments and political leaders.

Justifying and trying to excuse his brutal child murders by comparing them to political issues and wars. I hope that people do not buy into this. I don’t believe he believes it.

In one letter he states: “The politically chosen establishment judge for the judicial review [of his force feeding] was the one who, weeks prior, allowed [Chile’s General Augusto] Pinochet to flee the UK and escape charges of war crimes.

“He found Pinochet unfit to stand trial for the torture and murder of 4,000 political prisoners, and me not fit to die by voluntary starvation, refusing to halt Ashworth force feeding me.”

I am all for allowing him to starve to death! I do want to add that if he decides the last minute to not die, tough. Let him make his own bed the allow him to lie and die in it!

When Dr Cowley asked Brady about his murders his frequent response was that British forces had killed far more people than he had during the invasion of Iraq.

Does not matter, one does not, can not, will never cancel out or excuse the other.

Asked during one conversation why he does not publicly express any remorse for the Moors murders Brady says he does not see the point, stating defiantly: “It is just bringing up ancient history and revives, openly, old wounds and sores.

“Nobody is going to gain by it, nobody.”

The only remorse he appears to feel is for Hindley’s capture and imprisonment until her death in 2002.

Dr Cowley believes Brady still “carries a torch” for his former lover, despite the fact she blamed him for the murders in an attempt to win parole from prison.

At one stage Brady tells him: “The line between remorse for the victims and remorse for being captured can be somewhat blurred.”

I think that is one thing that is true and common among serial killers. Often what their friends, family and sympathizers think is remorse for the murders is actually just remorse over being caught, it is a form of self-pity.

Dr Cowley states that the only regret felt by Brady for his crimes is “because of the consequences that have to be endured [by him] not because they were truly wrong in themselves from any kind of moral perspective”.

Brady and Hindley were eventually arrested at his home following a tip-off to police.

Brady, who turned 73 earlier this month and is suffering from cataracts and severe weight loss, told Dr Cowley he would have shot his way to freedom when police arrested him – had he not left his handgun in an upstairs room because it was getting in the way of moving the body of his last victim.

Farcically, Brady forgot to destroy lists reminding himself to destroy any telltale evidence of the murders. One list even included a note reminding himself to destroy such notes.

These were subsequently found by police in his car and formed a key part of the evidence against the couple.

But, intriguingly, Brady told Dr Cowley he had several opportunities to escape immediately following his arrest.

While at Hyde police station in Manchester he was left alone in a canteen with an unbarred window, while his police guard took a phone call.

A second opportunity presented itself when he was escorted on foot, without handcuffs or police dogs, to the women’s section of Risley remand centre for an interview with his solicitor.

Thick fog meant all he had to do was step sideways to disappear from sight.

“It was a cinch,” said Brady.

Dr Cowley suspects that loyalty to Hindley and the hope of acquittal, or even the delusion they might only receive a normal ‘life’ tariff, prevented Brady seizing his opportunity.

Again, not uncommon. Serial killers often consider themselves much smarter than the police, juries, judges and all other people in general. They get sloppy and get caught as much due to their own arrogance as due to police work and forensics.

His study of Brady leads him to argue that the criminal profiles of killers drawn up to aid their capture are frequently too one-dimensional.

According to Dr Cowley profiling is usually attempted too late, when police have exhausted other lines of inquiry, rather than from the start of an investigation, when evidence is fresh on the ground.

He told this newspaper: “Profiling should begin at the very start of an investigation, not when everyone else has trodden all over the evidence.”

Dr Cowley is forgetting that profiling is a tool, just one tool of many that police use. Profiling is not THE biggest part of any investigation, it is just a part of it.

Also, evidence is needed to make a profile, the more evidence the better and more defined the profile can be.

Furthermore, Dr Cowley says that with both contemporary and present-day profiling techniques, someone like Brady would probably have been excluded from the Moors murders inquiry, as he did not match several of the characteristics regarded as central to any suspect.

While there are ‘starting’ points in any profile those points are not set in solid stone. Yes, we hear white male late 20’s to early 30’s very often, especially in popular television shows and novels but that is not a set profile. If crimes happen in a primarily all black area a white person would stick out so you start with a Black male and using the victims and the evidence available you build from scratch based on what we know.

He did not have a history of mental illness or of failed relationships, and he was not a loner uncomfortable in social settings.

There have been many serial killers without the traits above and profilers know that. Also, MOST serial killers do not have a history of mental illness.

“Brady would probably have been quickly eliminated from the possible suspect pool if his data had been included in an investigation using the above criteria,” said Dr Cowley. “Hindley would have been eliminated at the very first step.”

Dr. Cowley is assuming that had a profile been made it would have stated those things. He obviously doesn’t understand profiling at all. He does not seem to understand how a profile is made, what it is based on or even how it is supposed to be used in an investigation. Most people don’t, but usually they do not write books that seem that they do!

As it was, the couple were caught because they allowed Hindley’s brother-in-law, David Smith, to watch the murder of Edward Evans. On leaving the scene Smith simply turned the two killers in.

* Face to Face with Evil: Conversations with Ian Brady, by Chris Cowley is published by John Blake and is out now.

I do not think that Dr. Chris Cowley really understands the law enforcement side of things, but I still want to read his book. Not for what he says but for what Ian exposes about the mind of a serial killer.

Wiki article on the Moors Murders

Ian Brady ; The Right To Die

See No Evil. A movie about the murders.


Adam Walsh and the monsters.

Adam Walsh

Adam Walsh

I remember when Adam Walsh disappeared, I think most people who were alive then still do. I also remember when his head was found and the investigation that followed. The news reported on the search for the body, for clues, for the killer. The press showed the parents and extended family on the news almost every night. I think many people began to feel that they ‘knew’ this family.
Then John Walsh became a figure-head in the rights and search for missing kids and eventually he became a ‘face’ for all victims, not just children. I have watched AMW from the start and I have great respect for this family, for them turning such a tragedy into something that helps all of society. I can not imagine their pain, what it di to each of them individually or as a family.
I watched over the years as the suspects were looked at and I smiled when the police finally named Ottis Toole the killer. I was even happy that it did not happen until after his death, Ottis never got to be the ‘Walsh Kid Killer’. He died as a loser, known best as Lucas’ gay lover, a known liar and at most a mere arsonist in many’s eyes. (Not that I don’t take arson as a serious crime, but in the caste-system of criminals it is nowhere near serial killer status.)
It’s like how no matter who Lucas did kill he will forever be the one who did not kill Orange Socks, no matter how much wanted to have been her killer.
They both confessed to so many killing, for causing so much pain that they never did they became jokes. I know that they did kill people, but in the mind of the public in general they are wanna be serial killers, no matter what they actually did. They tried to be the scariest monsters and ended up dismissed by most.
Serial killers get off on being the biggest monster in the closet. They like to dangle possible information in front of the police, the public and the families of those that they have killed. All to often I have read how Bundy, Lucas, Shaffer, Olson and so on tried to make deals for bodies! They like to almost confess, just to keep attention on themselves. It is sickening.

Toole did that with Adam. He used that poor baby’s pain and the family’s (and societies) pain for attention. He mentioned it to other prisoners, to the guards and to detectives. He always said just enough to gain attention but never enough to give any closure to the family or to the world. He would confess then retract. It was a game, a sick game that he played to get attention.
Some might think that the game gave Toole ‘something’ even if it only gave him some of the attention he craved, but I do not think so. His claims went largely ignored. He did not get what he wanted.
Toole could only get the occasional glimmer of a spotlight but he could never hold it or have it full force.

So why am I writing about this now?

Seems that there is a new book coming out that has stirred some debate. The book supposedly has new information (or at least information not released to the public before) that proves Toole was the killer. I think that the book is actually about the entire case, but in pointing out all that the police missed, messed up, forgot and overlooked the author pulls out some new information including the fact that some photos of the carpet from Toole’s trunk show what might be Adam’s facial outline in a Luminol glow. (An article about the controversy here, no real information on the book though.)
There is a lot controversy going on about the upcoming book. I am not going to spend too much time trying to disprove or prove something that I have not even seen. I can not do that. Maybe after I read it I will have an opinion, I’m funny like that.
What I do want to write about is the other controversy that was stirred back up by this book.
The battle of the monsters.

The book is from the camp that believes that Ottis Toole killed Adam but there is another camp out there. They believe that Jeffery Dahmer was Adam’s killer.

Let me just say I think the killer was Toole.

I have read a good deal of the evidence and I do think that the right monster was named as Adam’s killer. I admit, this opinion is based on web information, the fact that John Walsh thinks Toole did it and the fact that the police think that he did it. The police admit that they screwed up and due to their screw ups the prosecutor decided not to prosecute Toole, waiting for more evidence to hopefully come to light. That acknowledgement alone says volumes.

Of course there are some things that point at Jeffery. He was Florida at the time. He was later found to be a killer that dismembered his victims. Some of his victims were just teens. There were a few eye witnesses that said they saw Jeffery at the mall that day. There was a blue van at the mall and Jeffery had access to a blue van.

My issues with these things:
Jeffery wanted a companion. Yes, he was attracted to younger looking guys but Adam was a little guy and only 6 years old. He was not what Jeffery was looking for. Jeffery had already killed a man his age so he knew that he could do ‘get what he wanted’ and would not have needed to kill a helpless child to gain courage to do what he really wanted to do. I doubt he would have went after a 6-year-old in a mall.
Jeffery was not the abduction type. He lured and drugged and seduced his victims. It was part of the game to him, his fantasy. The witnesses report a boy screaming and fighting and resisting. That was not how Jeffery operated and in my opinion that would have scared him, he would have known the attention he was getting and he (not all would, I am just referring to Jeffery’s personality) would have stopped.
The eye witnesses came forward AFTER seeing Jeffery on the news for his other killings. They were associating him with the crime. One of the witnesses gave a description, then said it could have been the security guard until they saw Jeffery on the news, then they said it was him. They swear that it was him even though it was 10 years later when they saw him on the news. I have serious doubts, I am not saying that they are lying I am saying I think they are probably mistaken.
The blue van at the mall was illegally parked. Jeffery was not stupid, if he was going into a mall to find a victim he would not have parked in a way to attract attention. Also, it has been reported that the van at the mall was a different make than the van that Jeffery had access to.
Also, in 1992, Florida police interviewed Dahmer in a prison in Wisconsin. At the request of John Walsh who had heard that some thought that Dahmer could be his son’s killer the Broward County district attorney took the death penalty off the table. They figured that that would increase the odds that Dahmer would confess if he did kill Adam.
Jeffery denied it. He admitted to so many other killings in great detail but denied this one.

There are more things that people say point to Jeffery Dahmer and things that contradict those things.

I agree with the police and with John Walsh, Jeffery Dahmer did not kill Adam. Jeffery was a monster and the world is safer and a better place without Jeffery but not because he had anything to do with the awful crime against Adam Walsh.

Well the new book coming out, as I said, is supposed to prove Toole killed Adam and this has greatly upset those that think that Dahmer did it. It has upset some of those people enough that they are suing the authors and the Hollywood, Florida police department to make them release documents and photos from the book and from the case records.

I find that suspicious. I can not help but think that the man doing this, a man who is one of the witnesses that says that he saw Dahmer at the mall that day, is up to something. I wonder if he has own book that he was going to have released that could be hurt by this. I mean if there is indisputable proof in the book he could be left looking like an ass.

The public records suit that seeks the release of Matthews’ report was brought by retired Miami Herald press operator Willis Morgan. Morgan, who lives in Hallandale Beach, claims to have encountered Jeffrey Dahmer, another notorious serial killer at the Hollywood Mall on the day Adam was abducted. The defendants are Wagner, Broward State Attorney Michael Satz and Matthews.

I think that I am more interested in why Mr. Morgan is so upset about all this than I am in the actual book.
I just hope that Adam’s family can ignore this. I think if I am going to read a book about this case now though, it will be Tears of Rage by John Walsh.

More Information here

Here is the made for tv movie Adam based on this story. I only the link for part one as this post is long enough. It is easy enough to follow the links to watch the whole thing.

Another article.

Bill to end federal income support for incarcerated seniors passed by Canadian Senate


By Shadi Elien, December 14, 2010

A bill that will cut off federal income support for incarcerated seniors was passed today (December 14) in the Canadian Senate.

The Harper government introduced the legislation in June after news that serial killer Clifford Olson was receiving more that $1,100 a month in federal benefits while imprisoned for the murder of 11 children in B.C. in the early 1980s.

Human Resources Minister Diane Finley, who denounced the federal payments to imprisoned seniors as “offensive and outrageous”, said in a news release today that, “It is wrong that convicted killers like Clifford Olson were receiving taxpayers’ entitlements such as Old Age Security.”

Olson has threatened to sue the government if the bill passes.

The new law will prevent 400 senior citizens serving sentences of two years or more in federal penitentiaries from receiving monthly Old Age Security and Guaranteed Income Supplement cheques.

The government is also negotiating with the provinces to cut off benefits for inmates serving less than two years in provincial jails.

Finley has estimated an annual savings of $2 million by ending benefits for federal prisoners and up to $10 million once provincial prisoners are included.

The government doesn’t expect much resistance from the provinces, as most already deny provincial benefits to jailed seniors.

Upon their release, prisoners would be allowed to apply for benefits.

Olson is going to sue? How dare he.
He is going to use tax payer money to sue the tax payers!
There has to be a way to stop sickos from abusing society further.
I am happy that the Canadian Government has done this though.

Clifford R Olson to appear before parole board

Full article here.

“He reminds me of the character in the film – Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs. Hannibal Lecter is a fictitious character, but Clifford Olson is very real,” said Sharon Rosenfeldt, the mother of 16-year-old Daryn Todd Johnsrude, one of 11 children and teenagers murdered by Olson in British Columbia between November 1980 and July 1981. The victims – eight girls between 12 and 18 years old and three boys between 10 and 16 – were tortured and sexually assaulted before Olson murdered them.

On Tuesday, Rosenfeldt and several other relatives of the 11 youngsters Olson murdered are expected to attend his parole hearing at the Special Handling Unit in Ste. Anne des Plaines, a so-called super-maximum penitentiary, 30 kilometres north of Montreal. He was transferred to the penitentiary in June 1997 after it became apparent Olson, now 70, planned to escape from a penitentiary in Kingston.

It will be Olson’s second attempt at a release. He was denied both day and full parole in July 2006 after a bizarre hearing where he spewed out a series of wild lies and told the parole board members listening to his case that he didn’t care what they thought of him.

The board was also presented with a series of negative psychiatric evaluations, including one prepared in 1997 that described Olson as “the quintessential psychopath, showing the ultimate moral alienation.” Olson refused to participate in other evaluations following that one.

Three relatives read victim-impact statements during the 2006 hearing and audio recordings from others were played for the board. All described how Olson ruined many lives. But Olson showed no sign of remorse and Rosenfeldt said she doesn’t expect to find any this time around.

“It’s probably going to be the same. He is a narcissistic psychopath who takes great joy at being the centre of attention,” said Rosenfeldt, who will read a victim-impact statement on Tuesday. “I don’t have to be at the hearing. But I definitely will be there. The only reason is to give a face to my son. His life was taken from him.”

“I will attend every two years until either he dies or I do,” she said.”

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Video about Clifford Olson’s crimes.

<img src="serial killer,child killer,canada” alt=”Clifford Olson and Victims” />

Olson was in the news not too long ago over the fact that he was still getting federal money meant for seniors to live on. He is prison, all his needs are already paid for.

A bill that was crafted after the government learned that serial killer Clifford Olson is receiving federal seniors’ benefits is on its way to the Senate for final approval after it was unanimously passed in the House of Commons.

The proposed legislation would strip incarcerated seniors of their old-age supplements, affecting about 400 inmates serving terms of two years or more.

Olson has said he would sue the government if the bill passes.

The proposed legislation cleared the Commons on approval of all parties, less than six months after it was introduced by Human Resources Minister Diane Finley, who said that paying benefits to imprisoned seniors was “offensive and outrageous.”

Read more here

Video about the financial situation.

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